Klarinet Archive - Posting 000331.txt from 2005/11

From: "danyel" <rab@-----.de>
Subj: Re: [kl] Georg Ottensteiner clarinet (was Odd Clarinet)
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2005 22:19:38 -0500

Hi Aad,

sorry I didn't check my mails in a while. Now the Ottensteiner was sold for
above 5000, which I think was still a bargain. Yes, Ottensteiner, who also
worked for Beermann and designed the original Beermann-system with him, made
the clarinets for Muehlfeld. They are still kept in a Meiningen museum
(www.meiningermuseen.de/muehlfeldklarinette.html). Schwenk & Seggelke make
excellent copies, but the originals are still something else. I think they
might actually represent the apex of clarinet making. The full-Beermann
keywork leaves nothing to be desired and the sound and intonation are
fantastic. I particularly like the feature of a thumb-f#/c# key, as
originally proposed by Richard Mueller. I have never before seen this on a
C. The C-clarinet on Ebay had the same collector's mark as those in
Meiningen! It is quite possible that this was actually Muehlfeld's
C-clarinet or belonged to one of his colleagues in the Hofcapelle. Anyway,
this one was made exactly as the A and Bb from the Muehlfeld estate, even
including the stained boxwood! It would be very interesting to hear how
Mahler sounds on this C-clar., à-prospos the alleged inherent shrillness of
the C.
BTW, the original mouthpieces used by Muehlfeld (copies available from
Schwenk & Seggelke) are comparable to the "Wiener Konzertbahn" made today by
O. Hammerschmidt, very long and quite closed, with a large chamber. Using
one on my original Berthold, Speyer produces a rather similar type of sound,
which I think is very important for Brahms and quite unlike anything I found
in modern clarinets. To me, the sound of all modern clarinets (including
Oehler system) I know is quite dull, lacklustre in comparison with this kind
of instrument.

Best wishes,
danyel

www.echoton.de/clar.html

----- Original Message -----
From: "Aad Overeem" <aad.overeem@-----.nl>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 2:26 PM
Subject: [kl] Georg Ottensteiner clarinet (was Odd Clarinet)

> Fred,
>
> I'm also intrigued by this clarinet.
> I'm sure Danyel Franke from Frankfurt, Germany can tell us more about this
> instrument! He did send a mention about the eBay auction for this
clarinet.
>
> Danyel please can you tell us more about the Ottensteiner C clarinet?
>
> All the best,
>
> Aad Overeem
> Netherlands
>
>
> From: "Fred" <fred.sheim@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 7:01 PM
> Subject: [kl] Odd Clarinet
>
>
> > I have been watching eBay Item number: 6575675424, the braune C
> > clarinet, and saw that it went for over $6100 USD. Could anyone tell
> > me why and perhaps a bit of its history- is this a very rare antique?
> >
> > Fred
> >
>
>
>
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