Klarinet Archive - Posting 000114.txt from 2005/11

From: Simeon Loring <sloring1@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] The Vienna Philharmonic and Women -- Bad News
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:42:09 -0500


On Nov 8, 2005, at 9:24 AM, Joseph H. Fasel wrote:

> A German academic colleague was telling me recently that his female
> colleages at the university were calling themselves "Frau
> Professor" (as
> opposed to "Professorin", I suppose). I said I had been taught that
> "Frau Professor" referred to a professor's wife. He said, "Ha! Well,
> maybe in Austria."
>
> --Joe
>
> On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 07:16, Ken Wolman wrote:
>> Of course the "F-word" is crass and vulgar: but in this context it
>> hit
>> me like a well-aimed brick (call me Krazy Kat), and I applaud the
>> courage of the person who wrote the posting. Blanket bans of "bad
>> language" are preposterous and, anomalous for a music list, show a
>> tin
>> ear to nuance. To describe the peculiar Teutonic/time warp attitude
>> toward women, it is perfect and probably even too mild. I have
>> questions about whether Austria ever graduated from the Nazi era,
>> a time
>> when aesthetically appealing women AND men were considered
>> appropriate
>> breeding stock and everyone else...well, difficult to say.
>>
>> To put the Austrian/Germanic attitude in perspective, would you
>> suggest
>> that cattle or horses "make love"?
>
>
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