Klarinet Archive - Posting 000113.txt from 2005/11

From: "Joseph H. Fasel" <jhf@-----.gov>
Subj: Re: [kl] The Vienna Philharmonic and Women -- Bad News
Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:26:10 -0500

A German academic colleague was telling me recently that his female
colleages at the university were calling themselves "Frau Professor" (as
opposed to "Professorin", I suppose). I said I had been taught that
"Frau Professor" referred to a professor's wife. He said, "Ha! Well,
maybe in Austria."

--Joe

On Tue, 2005-11-08 at 07:16, Ken Wolman wrote:
> Of course the "F-word" is crass and vulgar: but in this context it hit
> me like a well-aimed brick (call me Krazy Kat), and I applaud the
> courage of the person who wrote the posting. Blanket bans of "bad
> language" are preposterous and, anomalous for a music list, show a tin
> ear to nuance. To describe the peculiar Teutonic/time warp attitude
> toward women, it is perfect and probably even too mild. I have
> questions about whether Austria ever graduated from the Nazi era, a time
> when aesthetically appealing women AND men were considered appropriate
> breeding stock and everyone else...well, difficult to say.
>
> To put the Austrian/Germanic attitude in perspective, would you suggest
> that cattle or horses "make love"?

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