Klarinet Archive - Posting 000104.txt from 2005/11

From: Fred Jacobowitz <fbjacobo@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] The Vienna Philharmonic and Women -- Bad News
Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:56:24 -0500

Matt,
It's not a matter of the way the word is used, it is the use of
profanity - the use of the word itself. I find profanity to be
offensive and I suspect I am not alone. It is not necessary to use
shocking and offensive language in order to make your point and it is
in fact a sign of disrespect to others to do so. Let's be civil to one
another.

Respectfully,
Fred Jacobowitz

Kol Haruach Klezmer Band
Ebony and Ivory Duo
On Nov 7, 2005, at 6:32 PM, Matthew Lloyd wrote:

> Fred,
>
> I actually thought the word fuck was used in an entirely appropriate
> manner - one implying a degree of contemptuousness.
>
> Matthew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Fred Jacobowitz [mailto:fbjacobo@-----.net]
> Sent: 07 November 2005 22:18
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] The Vienna Philharmonic and Women -- Bad News
>
> Joseph,
> I appreciate the tone of your reply and agree with you but do
> you
> think you could do without the 'F' word (and other profanity, of
> course)? TIA.
>
> Fred Jacobowitz
>
> Kol Haruach Klezmer Band
> Ebony and Ivory Duo
> On Nov 7, 2005, at 5:14 PM, Joseph Wakeling wrote:
>
>> Ormondtoby Montoya wrote:
>>
>>> Sometimes I wonder what a person *gains* by behaving this way? (I
>>> myself *enjoy* associating with women.)
>>
>>
>> Me too; but in my experience, most men don't. They like fucking
>> women, and they like having women around to be objects of aesthetic
>> beauty, and they like women who act as amplifiers for their own ego,
>> etc. etc. etc., but take a woman who actually wants to be treated as a
>
>> *proper human being* and many men find that quite scary.
>>
>> Their loss, methinks. :-)
>>
>>
>>
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