Klarinet Archive - Posting 000454.txt from 2005/06

From: "Keith" <100012.1302@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] OKlahoma Symposium
Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2005 08:13:15 -0400

Dan, sorry I forgot that one. The first roulade goes to bottom C rather than
"middle" C. But it is only the one note that is changed, to be the same note
as the cello, the bass of the chord. Here it also preserves the downward
pattern of the start of each roulade.

The two roulades are not quite parallel in the "original". The first is
V-V7-V in the last three quarter note beats, the second is V7-V-V7. So the
leap to the basset C would be a ninth rather than a fifth. And though the
inversion of the chord would not change, the lowest note would be in the
clarinet, rather than unison with the viola as in the "original". The cello
is not playing there. And the start of each of the second group of roulades
drops by a fourth in each quarter note beat including the last one, when
played in the normal clarinet register. So I feel it is sensible and
consistent to use the basset C in the first roulade but not in the second.
It seems that the whole final chord is called to be an octave higher than in
the first, perhaps to lead nicely into the pair of violins on their own.

I agree very much with Tony that all we can do is try to make musical sense
rather than stick basset notes in because They Are There. But of course I
dunno, and I am eager to hear the opinions of those more knowledgeable.

Keith

> Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2005 18:32:23 -0700
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
> Subject: RE: [kl] OKlahoma Symposium
> Message-ID: <FJEKIMDEOJFJPBKBMDOPMEAEDIAA.dnleeson@-----.net>
>
> In response to Keith's helpful remarks about what he does to
> employ basset notes in 581, I mention that Larry Combs in his
> first entrance in the 7th measure of the first movement,
> played those roulades so that the last one was unfolded and
> went down to what I think was low C. I must admit not to
> caring for it, not because in itself it is unwarranted, but
> because Larry did NOT do that for the second entrance which
> also has roulades, but which he played without any descent
> into the basset notes.
>
> Now I'm not suggesting that every pair of parallel passages
> need to be exactly the same in structure, but the first two
> in that work seem to call for it as it sets the path to be
> taken all the way to the end of the movement.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
>

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