Klarinet Archive - Posting 000143.txt from 2005/06

From: "Fernando Silveira" <fernandounirio@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] DMA vs. PhD
Date: Mon, 06 Jun 2005 22:18:16 -0400

Hi Dan.
I agree with you but you can not generalize.
There is excelet clarinet players with DMA in USA and all over the world.

Best

Fernando Silveira
Rio de Janeiro - Brazil
----- Original Message -----
From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 10:53 PM
Subject: RE: [kl] DMA vs. PhD

> You are touching on a very sensitive problem. One of the
> difficulties of a DMA is that there are varying standards. Thus a
> DMA from a school with weak standards could result in giving an
> inferior player a level of authority that s/he does not really
> have. While a DMA from a school with higher standards can
> produce a student who can compete anywhere.
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> I have read dissertations from some students who received a
> doctorate of music, and my opinions of some (opinions that were
> not solicited, I assure you) was that I would not want that
> person to teach my dog about playing music, so inadequate was
> his/her written communication skills, his/her knowledge of the
> subject, and his/her ability to do serious research. Many of the
> dissertations that I have read border on a college senior's B
> term paper.
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> There are very few professional players in the major symphonies
> of America with advanced degrees, though some have attained a
> bachelor's degree, but fewer a master's degree. Is there a single
> principle player in America with a DMA? Some have no degrees at
> all, which is unfortunate because their music history knowledge
> is often inadequate. But they can play!!! Wow, can they play.
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> This has given rise to two armed camps, namely the professional
> performers on one hand and the academics on the other, with each
> seriously mistrusting the other.
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> It is a situation that is going to be with us for a long time.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bruce M [mailto:bmcgar@-----.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 6:34 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] DMA vs. PhD
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> Re. DMA:
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> Used to be that you had to play excellently. Now you have to have
> a piece of
> paper that says that you do.
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> "You can't choose her over me! *I* have a DMA, and she doesn't!"
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> That's advancement for you.
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