Klarinet Archive - Posting 000177.txt from 2005/04

From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] RE: flutter tongueing
Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 11:08:56 -0400

What Ed says about some people being unable to duplicated the
Spanish rolled R is undoubtedly related in some unclear way to
the genetic inability of some people to roll their tongue into an
upper circle. They just cannot do it.

While many (but not all) can make the upper circle, far fewer can
make the lower circle. I was told the tongue motion of this
nature is a genetically controlled aspect of humans.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Lacy, Edwin [mailto:el2@-----.edu]
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 8:00 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: [kl] RE: flutter tongueing

Lots of people seem to be willing to advise us that the way to
flutter
tongue is to "use the Spanish rolled "R." What they don't
understand is
that for some people, this is impossible. And, those who can't
pronounce the Spanish rolled "R" also can't flutter tongue. So,
that
amounts to no advice at all.

I have been trying for over 50 years to learn to flutter tongue.
In the
process I have made more ugly sounds and expended more saliva
than you
can imagine. My wife and one of our sons can do it with no
trouble - it
seems effortless to them. Our other son, like me, has never been
able
to do it. Many people have tried to teach me to do it. In most
cases,
they begin by saying, "Just use the Spanish rolled "R."

So, here we go again. However, fortunately for me, I can create
this
effect with the back of the soft palate.

Ed Lacy
University of Evansville

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