Klarinet Archive - Posting 000068.txt from 2005/03
From: Georg K=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=hner <520045578938-0001@-----.de>
Subj: Re: [kl] Germansound Boehmclarinets
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 12:11:18 -0500
Hello Dan,
I think I can not reach the high quality language that You use because I'm
not from an English speaking country.
I agree with You in many things but ...
Regards Georg
Am 02.03.2005 17:36 Uhr schrieb "dnleeson" unter <dnleeson@-----.net>:
> The problem I have here is that the term "certain kind of sound"
> can mean many things. However, I do not believe that it can ever
> mean "German," and this is because there is not a penny's worth
> of evidence that establishes a relationship between nationality
> and instrumental sound.
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> It is even a worse description than "dark" or "bright."
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> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Georg K u hner [mailto:520045578938-0001@-----.de]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:24 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Germansound Boehmclarinets
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> The size of the instrument parameters are designed to produce
> easier a
> certain kind of sound. But that doesn't mean that there are not
> other
> possibilities.
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> You can drive really fast in a Porsche and in a Mercedes!
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> But does sound the same in both cars?
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> Stupid comparison:-))
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> I hope You know what I mean
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> Regards Georg
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> Am 01.03.2005 23:27 Uhr schrieb "dnleeson" unter
> <dnleeson@-----.net>:
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>> David, I do not disagree with you. There are indeed different
>> schools of clarinet playing, but calling an instrument a
>> Germansound clarinet implies that the player is not responsible
>> for the sound (which would be very much influenced by his or
> her
>> attendance at schooling associated with that culture), but
> rather
>> the clarinet itself. IT is the source of the sound, and that
>> sound character, uninfluenced by the school or the culture, is
>> derived from some mechanical aspect of the instrument's
> creation.
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>> It's not only an inherently unmusical idea, it is an irrational
>> one that leads to absurd contradicitions; i.e., a
>> WestCoastclarinetsound is made in Los Angeles, and an
>> EastCoastclarinetsound is made in New York. And God forbid a
>> player from the east should show up to take an audition in the
>> west. I admit the idea is preposterous but that is where the
>> idea of an instrument carrying an inherent sound leads one.
>>
>> Those different schools of clarinet playing are culturally
>> derived, and depend on the educational system, the teachers,
> the
>> students, and goodness knows what else.
>>
>> And if wood from trees is chopped down in Africa, with some of
> it
>> shipped to Germany, and some of it shipped to France, is the
>> manufacturing process going to create a distinctive cultural
>> sound? It boggles the imagination, it is so foreign to
>> intelligent thinking. It just shows you what clarinetists will
>> swallow in terms of advertising without shooting the putz who
>> invented such a bad idea.
>>
>> Dan Leeson
>> DNLeeson@-----.net
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: David Blumberg [mailto:blummy@-----.net]
>> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:44 AM
>> To: klarinet@-----.org
>> Subject: RE: [kl] Germansound Boehmclarinets
>>
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>> Like it or not Dan, there ARE different schools of Clarinet
>> playing and
>> there are also regions of Clarinetists which differ in sound
>> (though there
>> has been quite a mixing of the above). So the poster was most
>> likely
>> reffering to "dark" and possibly not quite as focused a tone as
>> the
>> "non-german" sounding clarinet.
>>
>> btw - before you ask, "Dark" is less high frequencies
> dominating
>> in the
>> sound.
>>
>> I'll post this in this thread to save downloading another
>> message:
>>
>> Guys, stop ridding Tony and Dan's butts. I for one am very glad
>> to see them
>> post on this list and they are quite helpful almost every post
>> that they
>> make.
>> If Tony has an occasional "listen kid, I know my stuff" than
> he
>> has it
>> coming as he has the experience to "walk the talk".
>>
>> David Blumberg
>> http://www.mytempo.com
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>> dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
>> Subject: RE: [kl] Germansound Boehmclarinets
>> Message-ID:
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>> What does a German sounding clarinet sound like, and how does
>> this differ from a non-German sounding clarinet?
>>
>> Dan Leeson
>> DNLeeson@-----.net
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