Klarinet Archive - Posting 000064.txt from 2005/03

From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Germansound Boehmclarinets
Date: Wed, 2 Mar 2005 11:38:24 -0500

The problem I have here is that the term "certain kind of sound"
can mean many things. However, I do not believe that it can ever
mean "German," and this is because there is not a penny's worth
of evidence that establishes a relationship between nationality
and instrumental sound.

It is even a worse description than "dark" or "bright."

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Georg K u hner [mailto:520045578938-0001@-----.de]
Sent: Wednesday, March 02, 2005 5:24 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] Germansound Boehmclarinets

The size of the instrument parameters are designed to produce
easier a
certain kind of sound. But that doesn't mean that there are not
other
possibilities.

You can drive really fast in a Porsche and in a Mercedes!

But does sound the same in both cars?

Stupid comparison:-))

I hope You know what I mean

Regards Georg

Am 01.03.2005 23:27 Uhr schrieb "dnleeson" unter
<dnleeson@-----.net>:

> David, I do not disagree with you. There are indeed different
> schools of clarinet playing, but calling an instrument a
> Germansound clarinet implies that the player is not responsible
> for the sound (which would be very much influenced by his or
her
> attendance at schooling associated with that culture), but
rather
> the clarinet itself. IT is the source of the sound, and that
> sound character, uninfluenced by the school or the culture, is
> derived from some mechanical aspect of the instrument's
creation.
>
> It's not only an inherently unmusical idea, it is an irrational
> one that leads to absurd contradicitions; i.e., a
> WestCoastclarinetsound is made in Los Angeles, and an
> EastCoastclarinetsound is made in New York. And God forbid a
> player from the east should show up to take an audition in the
> west. I admit the idea is preposterous but that is where the
> idea of an instrument carrying an inherent sound leads one.
>
> Those different schools of clarinet playing are culturally
> derived, and depend on the educational system, the teachers,
the
> students, and goodness knows what else.
>
> And if wood from trees is chopped down in Africa, with some of
it
> shipped to Germany, and some of it shipped to France, is the
> manufacturing process going to create a distinctive cultural
> sound? It boggles the imagination, it is so foreign to
> intelligent thinking. It just shows you what clarinetists will
> swallow in terms of advertising without shooting the putz who
> invented such a bad idea.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Blumberg [mailto:blummy@-----.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2005 11:44 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Germansound Boehmclarinets
>
>
> Like it or not Dan, there ARE different schools of Clarinet
> playing and
> there are also regions of Clarinetists which differ in sound
> (though there
> has been quite a mixing of the above). So the poster was most
> likely
> reffering to "dark" and possibly not quite as focused a tone as
> the
> "non-german" sounding clarinet.
>
> btw - before you ask, "Dark" is less high frequencies
dominating
> in the
> sound.
>
> I'll post this in this thread to save downloading another
> message:
>
> Guys, stop ridding Tony and Dan's butts. I for one am very glad
> to see them
> post on this list and they are quite helpful almost every post
> that they
> make.
> If Tony has an occasional "listen kid, I know my stuff" than
he
> has it
> coming as he has the experience to "walk the talk".
>
> David Blumberg
> http://www.mytempo.com
>
>
> -----------------------------------------------
> dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
> Subject: RE: [kl] Germansound Boehmclarinets
> Message-ID:
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>
> What does a German sounding clarinet sound like, and how does
> this differ from a non-German sounding clarinet?
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
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