Klarinet Archive - Posting 000128.txt from 2005/02

From: "Keith" <100012.1302@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Language issues when researching Mozart?
Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2005 07:45:40 -0500

Hmmmm ... When I write German, I always write the character first and then
the umlaut, which would tend to argue against the double dot being an
umlaut. But I am not a native speaker/writer, though we have some on the
list. Can I ask them, is this the universal practise?

Keith

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> Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2005 13:15:13 -0800
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
> Subject: RE: [kl] Language issues when researching Mozart?
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> Go for it. But the umlaut was a character in Mozart's day.
> When you see the measure, make up your own mind.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ormondtoby Montoya [mailto:orm1ondtoby@-----.net]
> Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:11 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Language issues when researching Mozart?
>
> Thank you for the explanation.
>
> I hope you won't snicker at me --- and I'm going to borrow a
> friend's computer to download pgs 6 & 7 of the fragment in
> order to see at least some of the details with my own eyes
> --- but one idea that niggles at my brain is whether, because
> of multiple languages, Mozart started to write a German
> character that included an umlaut (did German use umlauts
> during Mozart's day?), and then he changed his mind, but
> perhaps he didn't erase (or 'smudge out') the solitary umlaut
> afterwards.
> Are the
> double dots reasonably centered above the note heads, or perhaps a bit
> askew, or a bit too high above the note heads? Etc.
>
> After all, this is an 'unpublished' fragment whch was never
> delivered to a copyist (?), and perhaps Mozart didn't feel
> the need to correct every last detail when he was only
> tinkering with musical ideas.
>
> ....just a thought.... I'll be quiet now.
>
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