Klarinet Archive - Posting 000076.txt from 2005/02
From: "Rommel John Miller" <rjmiller@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] loose barrel rings
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:28:22 -0500
"If a clarinet wants to crack it will?"
Does the wood from which the clarinet is made have a mind of its own, or as
is more on the point, the wood of which a clarinet is made is subject to the
harsh conditions of its environment.
The point therefore is to control the environment in which the wood of the
clarinet finds itself.
And control can be accomplished with humidifiers, humistats, and good old
organic bore oil -- namely olive oil.
If properly cared for a clarinet is likely to never crack due to it being
stressed or overtly dried-out.
And the will of G-D or whatever Supreme Being you may ascribe your faith in,
has nothing to do with whether the clarinet will crack, only poor
maintenance.
This comes from a man who has an advanced degree in Philosophy, and is
struggling to regain his musical prowess and I make no claim to be an expert
or authority in this matter, but rather a messenger of those who are --
namely Larry Naylor.
Also, a little logic and simple common sense goes a long way.
All the best,
Rommel John Miller
Baltimore, MD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Aaron Hayden" <haydenmusic@-----.com>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:09 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] loose barrel rings
> By putting paper don't necessary mean that a clarinet will crack. It can
> last for years. It's just not a proper and permanant remedy for a loose
> ring. If a clarinet wants to crack it will, but proper ring tightening
> and proper maintenance(i.e. correct oil, not what you buy in a music
> store) can avoid a problem.
>
> Aaron Hayden
> Aaron Hayden Band Instrument Repair
> Cape Coral, Fl 33990
> 239-297-8643
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karl Krelove" <karlkrelove@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 4:38 PM
> Subject: RE: [kl] loose barrel rings
>
>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Aaron Hayden [mailto:haydenmusic@-----.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 11:44 AM
>>> Here's a question, if paper & glue was such a great fix or the
>>> proper
>>> way to tighten rings why doesn't the manufacturers use this procedure
>>> and
>>> then sell ring tightening paper or glue to make more profit?
>>> Something to
>>> think about.
>>
>> I haven't really seen a defense in this thread of glue, which seems to me
>> like a dangerous fix because the ring may need to be removed one day and
>> the
>> glue will make that difficult or impossible, depending on the glue.
>>
>> Manufacturers don't use paper because they are geared to do as much by
>> machine as possible and using paper is hand work. Hand-fitting
>> mass-produced
>> rings initially to mass-produced barrels or bells, given the variability
>> in
>> each during a manufacturing run, would involve a prohibitive amount of
>> time
>> which can be saved by a mechanical approach. And I don't doubt that a
>> better
>> or at least tighter initial fit results from using a ring machine. But if
>> I
>> have two loose rings on my reasonably well-humidified barrel and want to
>> keep them from sliding off, I don't see why paper shims applied carefully
>> around the entire circumference of the ring seat would have any effect on
>> cracking potential. Having see any number of very highly qualified techs
>> use
>> this same method without apparently any bad experiences, I can't see
>> what's
>> wrong with paper shims.
>>
>> Karl Krelove
>>
>>
>>
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