Klarinet Archive - Posting 000051.txt from 2005/02

From: Richard Bush <rbushidioglot@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Another mistake in K. 622???
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:21:41 -0500

Dan & List,

This is somewhat off topic with this thread, except it is about Mozart
and it is about clarinets.

I'm a fan of basset horns. I want to get a high quality CD of Mozart's
Requiem. What recordings would you recommend? They must be recordings
that include well played basset horns. Catalog numbers, record labels,
etc. would be appreciated.

Thanks to all.

Yours truly,

Richard Bush

rbushidioglot@-----.net

On Feb 3, 2005, at 12:06 PM, dnleeson wrote:

> That is a much bigger job. That this notation was accepted in
> the 18th century is pretty much well established, and while I was
> advised that Mozart used it elsehwere, I have not made the effort
> to find exactly that notation it in other places. It's actually
> worse than that. The other places are in manuscripts that have
> also disappeared, one being the bassoon concerto.
>
> I have absolutely seen him use that notation with a half note and
> four dots underneath (though slightly different because there is
> a slash in the half note's stem) but this is the first time I
> have ever seen it with a half note and two dots.
>
> Notwithstanding the absence of the notation elsewhere, I'm going
> with this because the evidence is quit persuasive, though one can
> always be wrong about this sort of thing. In fact, I am writing
> up a technical paper on it now. That's not something I can do
> rapidly. It will take a month to get everthing right. I even
> found a translation error in the famous letter from Constanze
> about the stolen portmanteau of Stadler.
>
> It has to be absolutely accurate to the extent that that
> objective can be achieved.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tim Roberts [mailto:timr@-----.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:57 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] Another mistake in K. 622???
>
>
> On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:55:05 -0800, "dnleeson"
> <dnleeson@-----.net>
> wrote:
>
>> You and Tony may be right about the lack of dots on the violin
>> part. I'll have to check it again when I have time. But I was
>> so amazed at the dots on the basset horn part and the
> implication
>> of that abbreviation that I went ga-ga for about 10 minutes. I
>> may write something about that for The Clarinet. Some might
>> think it a small thing, but I think it is hot doo-doo. To find
> a
>> possible error in 622 at the juncture of history is non trivial.
>>
>
> Is there a precedent in Mozart's other autographs for this
> notation?
>
> One of the key things I have learned from your posts, Dan, is
> that we
> should be skeptical of interpretations that are not consistent
> with the
> composer's established patterns.
> --
> - Tim Roberts, timr@-----.com
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