Klarinet Archive - Posting 000049.txt from 2005/02

From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Another mistake in K. 622???
Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2005 14:08:08 -0500

That is a much bigger job. That this notation was accepted in
the 18th century is pretty much well established, and while I was
advised that Mozart used it elsehwere, I have not made the effort
to find exactly that notation it in other places. It's actually
worse than that. The other places are in manuscripts that have
also disappeared, one being the bassoon concerto.

I have absolutely seen him use that notation with a half note and
four dots underneath (though slightly different because there is
a slash in the half note's stem) but this is the first time I
have ever seen it with a half note and two dots.

Notwithstanding the absence of the notation elsewhere, I'm going
with this because the evidence is quit persuasive, though one can
always be wrong about this sort of thing. In fact, I am writing
up a technical paper on it now. That's not something I can do
rapidly. It will take a month to get everthing right. I even
found a translation error in the famous letter from Constanze
about the stolen portmanteau of Stadler.

It has to be absolutely accurate to the extent that that
objective can be achieved.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Roberts [mailto:timr@-----.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2005 10:57 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Another mistake in K. 622???

On Wed, 2 Feb 2005 14:55:05 -0800, "dnleeson"
<dnleeson@-----.net>
wrote:

>You and Tony may be right about the lack of dots on the violin
>part. I'll have to check it again when I have time. But I was
>so amazed at the dots on the basset horn part and the
implication
>of that abbreviation that I went ga-ga for about 10 minutes. I
>may write something about that for The Clarinet. Some might
>think it a small thing, but I think it is hot doo-doo. To find
a
>possible error in 622 at the juncture of history is non trivial.
>

Is there a precedent in Mozart's other autographs for this
notation?

One of the key things I have learned from your posts, Dan, is
that we
should be skeptical of interpretations that are not consistent
with the
composer's established patterns.
--
- Tim Roberts, timr@-----.com
Providenza & Boekelheide, Inc.

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