Klarinet Archive - Posting 000008.txt from 2005/02

From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] K388
Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 16:25:19 -0500

I'm at a disadvantage here because I do not have the edition in
question, nor do I have my autograph either. It disappeared some
time ago and I have not had reason to ask Salzburg for another
copy. So you have to forgive me for bugging out on this matter
but I am not really in a position to address it. All I can say
is that I used the manuscript for the Barenreiter edition so they
may be going a little far to suggest that they, and no one else,
did that.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Pay [mailto:tony.p@-----.org]
Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 1:13 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] K388

On 28 Jan, I <tony.p@-----.org> wrote:

> ....I just wanted to add an even more startling divergence that
I recently
> heard on the radio: in the English Concert's recording
(Hyperion CDH55092)
> I, 32, the second clarinet goes from Ab to G natural after the
first half
> note, and I think back up again halfway through the next bar (I
didn't
> quite catch it, but that would seem necessary). I don't have
the disc, so
> I can't say anything about the edition they use -- Colin Lawson
is playing
> first clarinet, so I suppose I could ask him....

...and I did, and he said that the edition they used was the
Camden one, and:

> ...it would be worth checking the provenance with them (and of
course the
> autograph).

So, first of all, we have a question for Colin Touchin, who has
access to the
Camden edition; namely: what does that edition contain at movt I
bar 32?

Secondly, do they say what is the source of their edition, and,
why does it
diverge from the autograph, which I take it was what the
Baerenreiter edition
used? (As I remarked previously, like Dan I find the other
divergencies from
the Baerenreiter that Colin Touchin noted to be unconvincing
musically.)

Their website:

http://www.camdenmusic.com/html/camcat.htm

...says: "This edition returns to Mozart's original manuscripts
to provide a
source for performance that is free from the ravages of the 19th
century
editors, revealing some startling differences in what has, until
now, been
considered the authentic version of these great works."

They also quote the Musical Times of London: "I have nothing but
praise for
this thoroughly recommendable performing edition of this fine
wind serenade
[KV388]"

I should say that when I wrote previously:

> the second clarinet goes from Ab to G natural after the first
half note,
> and I think back up again halfway through the next bar (I
didn't quite
> catch it, but that would seem necessary)

...I'd now think it more likely that the second clarinet went
*down* to F
halfway through the next bar -- but as I said, I haven't been
able to check
yet.

*This* divergence *is* musically convincing, of course. I'd say
that Mozart
might easily have written it.

Tony
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