Klarinet Archive - Posting 000182.txt from 2005/01

From: "sarah elbaz" <sarah@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Yiddish (was Simeon Bellison)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 09:52:41 -0500


Roger,

My family is Sepharadic and I used to talk Ldino with my grandparents. As far as I know
the term Ladino is still used for that language and also for the language that the Sepharadic community
in Jerusalem Spoke(The community that lived inside the wall until about 100 years ego).

Sarah
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> From: "Roger Shilcock" <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Re: Yiddish (was Simeon Bellison)
> Sent: 13 Jan 2005 13:47:45
>
> From a non-Jew who can read Yiddish - up to a point:
> There is a traditional linguistic and cultural (important!) division between
> Ashkenazim (Yiddish-speaking Jews) and Sefardim (Judeo-Spanish-speaking
> Jews). Other "Judaized" languages have existed, but are mostly extinct or
> nearly so - examples are Jewish varieties of Italian, French, Greek and Arabic.
> The term "Ladino" is well worth avoiding, as it has several meanings.
> It is used for spoken Judeo-Spanish, but also for texts in Romance languages -
> not necessarily Spanish - written in Hebrew characters. It has other meanings
> which have nothing to do with Jewish culture at all.
> By the way, Fred J., "shtetl" *is* in fact of German origin.
>
> Roger S.
>
>
> In message <6.0.1.1.0.20050112142912.01fec850@-----.edu>
> klarinet@-----.org writes:
> > I'm not a student of this, Sarah, but was Yiddish indigenous to north
> > Africa or was it an import?
> >
> > Isn't Yiddish better defined as European Jewish, and then possibly with
> > added qualifications?
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > At 08:12 AM 1/12/2005, you wrote:
> > >Dan,
> > >Yiddish means Jewish in every sense.  Yiddish, Jewish and Yehudi are
> > >exactly the same thing. ("Yehudi Menuhin" means- the Jew will rest)
> > >And I don't mind at all getting into this discussion!
> > >Sarah
> >
> >
> >
> >
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