Klarinet Archive - Posting 000181.txt from 2005/01

From: Roger Shilcock <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Yiddish (was Simeon Bellison)
Date: Thu, 13 Jan 2005 08:48:59 -0500

From a non-Jew who can read Yiddish - up to a point:
There is a traditional linguistic and cultural (important!) division between
Ashkenazim (Yiddish-speaking Jews) and Sefardim (Judeo-Spanish-speaking
Jews). Other "Judaized" languages have existed, but are mostly extinct or
nearly so - examples are Jewish varieties of Italian, French, Greek and Arabic.
The term "Ladino" is well worth avoiding, as it has several meanings.
It is used for spoken Judeo-Spanish, but also for texts in Romance languages -
not necessarily Spanish - written in Hebrew characters. It has other meanings
which have nothing to do with Jewish culture at all.
By the way, Fred J., "shtetl" *is* in fact of German origin.

Roger S.

In message <6.0.1.1.0.20050112142912.01fec850@-----.edu>
klarinet@-----.org writes:
> I'm not a student of this, Sarah, but was Yiddish indigenous to north
> Africa or was it an import?
>
> Isn't Yiddish better defined as European Jewish, and then possibly with
> added qualifications?
>
> Oliver
>
> At 08:12 AM 1/12/2005, you wrote:
> >Dan,
> >Yiddish means Jewish in every sense. Yiddish, Jewish and Yehudi are
> >exactly the same thing. ("Yehudi Menuhin" means- the Jew will rest)
> >And I don't mind at all getting into this discussion!
> >Sarah
>
>
>
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