Klarinet Archive - Posting 000115.txt from 2005/01

From: "dnleeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] RE: Klocker
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:57:04 -0500

Then I am wrong about the bassoon concerto. I haven't looked at
it for a while and was using my memory. But if it has a tonic
6/4 chord with a fermata, then that is the signal for a cadenza.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Adam Michlin [mailto:amichlin@-----.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2005 8:38 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] RE: Klocker

At 05:39 AM 1/9/2005 -0800, dnleeson wrote:
>[LEESON: This is a correct interpretation of
>the situation.], 11 measures before the end of the K. 191, for

[...]

>[LEESON: In the
>bassoon concerto, no cadenza is requested, and by that I mean
>that the devices used to request one are not present.]

11 measures before the end of te first movement of the bassoon
concerto I
see a tonic 6/4 chord and a fermata, which seems to meet the
requirements
for the insertion of the cadenza and yet you explicitly state
there is no
cadenza requested in the bassoon concerto.

This is where my confusion exists. The same circumstances exist
in the
flute concerti, which Rampal has composed a cadenzas for in his
published
International editions. Rampal was hardly a historically informed
performer
or editor, but I have proceeded under the assumption that it was
acceptable
for him to provide cadenzas for the flute concerti because he did
so at the
requisite tonic 6/4 chord and fermata.

I have advised people that there is no cadenza in K.622 but the
majority of
Mozart's wind concertos contain cadenzas (excepting the horn
concertos,
only 1 of the 4 has the requisite tonic 6/4 chord). I fear I may
have been
giving out misinformation, since I see no ambiguity in your
statement "In
the bassoon concerto, no cadenza is requested, and by that I mean
that the devices used to request one are not present."

Thanks,

-Adam

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