Klarinet Archive - Posting 000453.txt from 2004/11

From: "Lelia Loban" <lelialoban@-----.net>
Subj: [kl] Clarinets - Identification markings etc.
Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 09:58:19 -0500


kimi wrote,
>>Geez Lelia I can't believe what you wrote down
>>below. YOu just basically said enough to make
>>me look like some kind of monster parent.

No, I went out of my way to say that I *didn't* think you were the monster
parent.

Here's what I wrote:
>I wonder if the band director might have seemed nonchalant
> just because he needed to calm down a parent who's
>obviously protective and intensely involved with her child --
>a parent who doesn't seem like some stage mommy monster,
>but nonetheless may be hovering around the school a little bit
>too much.

Notice the word *doesn't*. That seems pretty clear to me. You seem to
have misunderstood nearly all of my message.

For instance, you wrote,
>>Since when is taking other peoples things
>>an ok thing to do and reported said perpetrator
>>to get said item a crime?

I'm having trouble following your sentence, but if you think I accused your
daughter of something, you're mistaken. Also, I never said nor implied
that I thought it was okay for that girl to take part of your daughter's
clarinet without permission. I don't think it was okay at all. I wrote
that instead of disciplining that girl in front of you,

>A wise teacher will question the borrower or thief
>in a quiet, more private environment, such as the
>guidance counsellor's office, with the counsellor
>present as a witness and also as someone trained to
>encourage a student to be honest and to listen.
>Probably the kid only did something childish, selfish
>and thoughtless, but it's also possible that she has a
>general unawareness of other people's boundaries --
>or she may even be a budding kleptomaniac. The
>school has a responsibility not just to punish, to satisfy
>an aggrieved accuser, but to counsel that girl, without
>distractions, when she's calm enough to *absorb* the
>lesson that she mustn't borrow other people's property
>without permission.

You wrote,
>>So Screw you Lelia!

I'm sorry you're so upset. I won't reply on this thread again, but please
make an appointment with the guidance counsellor at your daughter's school
and explain the whole situation in person. It might help if you give the
counsellor the link to this thread in the Klarinet List Archives so that he
or she can see what you've been discussing. This is the link to the
Archives:

http://test.woodwind.org/Search/index.html?klarinet_index=klarinet_index

From the search page, enter this phrase to find the relevant messages:
"Clarinets - Identification markings"

Using the quotation marks around that phrase and limiting the time period
of the search to the last few weeks will ensure that the search engine
retrieves only this thread (the thread header varied, but I think all of
the variants included that phrase), but not the millions of unrelated
messages about clarinets, identification and markings (as separate words).

Lelia Loban

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