Klarinet Archive - Posting 000357.txt from 2004/11

From: "Abraham Gamboa" <abraham.gamboa@-----.br>
Subj: Re: [kl] RE: elections
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2004 06:32:49 -0500

Hello Dr. Joe, well I didn't REALLY want to write againabout this offline
topic but I'm having such a hard
time believing that the people in the USA and the European Colonizers (I
believe the British where the worst and maybe they could return all the
wealth they stole back to those countries, especially in Africa) love the
Arabs so much!!!!.
I left Boston for the first time in 1975 amidst interacial school busing
where in an Irish neighborhood the buses with black kids were being stoned
to and from schools!!!! Oh well.........
When I arrived in Brasil (1975) there was ALREADY a lot of anti-american
sentiments in most South and Central American countries. YES many people
blamed the US CIA for pulling off most South, Central American revolutions
in the 60's/70's (Brasil, Chile and etc) and for killing Che Guavara.
Many thought that people from the USA were overweight, oversexed,
imperialistic and racists!!!! That USA multinational companies and banks
were killing hundreds of thousands of people all over the world by
controlling
world economics and thus poverty and hunger and also wars (Vietnam and etc.)
to sustain the "american way of life" in the USA.
Some people here find it absurd that the people from the USA are called
americans since they here are also americans (South Americans) and Canadians
are also americans (North Americans). Have you ever lived abroad before the
Iraqi conflict?
What I find absurd is the notion that if we get rid of the great devil Bush
the world will become a bed of roses....that no more wars will exist, no
hatred, killings, and etc. and etc.
What's your solution to fixing humanities problems besides complaining about
Bush!!??
Abe
----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Fasel" <jhf@-----.gov>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] RE: elections

I don't by any means disagree with the substance of your statement,
but I had thought that most of those 100,000 deaths were not the
result of the aerial bombardment, but of subsequent events. Am
I mistaken? (It's entirely possible.)

Cheers,
--Joe

On 2004.11.08 10:43, Joseph Wakeling wrote:
> However, we do have a problem with things like world leaders who find it
> morally desirable to use massive numbers of aeroplanes to rain down
> massive numbers of explosives, and in the process kill 100,000+ innocent
> people. One can't help but feel that, in such circumstances, what is
> missing is the suicide, not the bomb.

Joseph H. Fasel, Ph.D. email: jhf@-----.gov
Systems Planning and Analysis phone: +1 505 667 7158
University of California fax: +1 505 667 2960
Los Alamos National Laboratory post: D-2 MS F609; Los Alamos, NM
87545

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