Klarinet Archive - Posting 000333.txt from 2004/11

From: "David Renaud" <manonrivet@-----.ca>
Subj: Re: [kl] pitch standard
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 15:59:53 -0500

So much for .5 cent difference, or even 4 cents!

You got me wrong here..........5 cents within itself,.

I was not talking about pitch drift, which can be significant.
Within itself, at the pitch you are at, temperment intervals
in midrange needs to be within about .5 cents accuracy for intervals to
sound good.

You may be at A439, or A435 for that matter, 20 cents flater.
Within itself at the pitch you are at .5 cent accuracy is required
in the temperment octave.
That whole thing is often be shifted up or down.

The standard remains A440, and deviations of the type you
are talking about do require different set ups, and do play
with the intonation of the instruments in strange ways.

4 cents flat from A440 does do things to the intonation I don t like.
It change some notes more then others.....makes it strange.

Dave Renaud

----- Original Message -----
From: <GrabnerWG@-----.com>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] pitch standard

> In a message dated 11/7/2004 1:19:30 PM Central Standard Time,
> forestaten@-----.net writes:
> <<4 cents? Most orchestral players only wished. Hahaha Even great ones.
Have
> you ever watched a wind player at a tuning machine? Or listened to what
goes
> on in an orchestra while the musicians are constantly moving pitch around
to
> "play in-tune"?>>
>
> I had a very relevant experience yesterday. We had a concert yesterday
with
> the Skokie Valley Symphony, a group that both my wife and I play in. We
had a
> pre-concert warm-up rehearsal of about an hour. At the end of that hour,
> everyone was pretty well warmed up and in tune.
>
> At one half hour before curtain time, the hall management turned on the
air
> conditioning. The temperature dropped dramatically by at least 10 degrees
on
> stage. When I got back to my clarinets, my A=44+ tuning had sunk 20
cents!
>
> The flutes, of course were even further off.
>
> We warmed up as well as we could, people pushed in, etc. I wound up
playing
> on completely different barrels than I did in the dress rehearsal or the
> pre-concert warm up!
>
> So much for .5 cent difference, or even 4 cents!
>
> Walter Grabner
> www.clarinetXpress.com
> World-class clarinet mouthpieces
>
>
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