Klarinet Archive - Posting 000474.txt from 2004/09

From: kurtheisig@-----.net
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: [Spam] RE: [kl] re: Buffet 1965 Clarinet
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2004 02:07:40 -0400

Who was the clarinet teacher in Quincy who lived up by the old dump in thos=
e apartments?=20
Was it Karl______??? had 100 clarinet students. Karl Longmeier????

Actually I was staying at the family home at 22 Suomi Rd a few hundred feet=
from there---right about where Quarry and Smith come together on Finn Hill=
in West Quincy above the square.=20

My other grandmother was in South Weymouth. I had a lotta Portagee friends =
out in Whitman and Hanson where I also grew up.

Sorry I don't pay attention to prices on clarinets that need an overhaul--t=
hey are only a blank! I just know what I sell them for after I have done a =
full custom over-haul---typically $1,800. Usually these are in fantastic co=
ndition then---very re-buildable clarinets.

I have seen some needing an overhaul for $1,200, but have no idea if that i=
s a typical price. We don't sell clarinets unless they are fully custom ove=
rhauled ---or new---and THEN encourage the overhaul!

-----Original Message-----
From: Abraham Gamboa <abraham.gamboa@-----.br>
Sent: Sep 26, 2004 9:55 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: [kl] Re: [Spam] RE: [kl] re: Buffet 1965 Clarinet

Thank you for sharing this e-mail!! I was raised in Quincy, MA and moved to
Brasil with my family for the first time in May 1975. It was Berklee or
Brasil and I wanted the hot weather after so many cold winters. As my folks
are from Cape Verde Islands and Brasil was colonized shortly after C. Verde
we have a lot of the same roots and I wanted to meet some relatives I din't
know personally BUT who had got my interest in Brasil and brasilian music
going!!
I love Boston and I'm even thinking about spending a winter there...WOW now
that's courage for me. BUT thanks again for the storis, what great memories
that brought back!! What do these clarinets from the mid 70's cost now
(average) and are the hard to find!!?? Abraham
----- Original Message -----
From: <kurtheisig@-----.net>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 26, 2004 6:29 AM
Subject: [Spam] RE: [kl] re: Buffet 1965 Clarinet

> OK
>
> 1975-6 was a strange time for Buffet!!
>
> Prices went through the floor for the following reason.....
>
> In 1975 the retail was $750 for R13's.
>
> The story as I understand it is.....
>
> The distributor tried an unfriendly buy-out of Buffet by storing ahead on=
e
years supply and then there was a HUGE price war between them and the
owner, Marty Tolchin!!
>
> The price dropped to $700 retail. My buddy Zep Meisner and Chuck and I
were buying them for $210 in bulk wholesale!!! (Also many other great
stores!!!)
>
> I was selling them for $425 and later $395 and then $375!!!!
>
> (Unlike a famous clarinetist that "claimed" to do set up on them, I WAS! =
I
would work on clarinets by the carton full all day, day after day!)
>
> In 14 months I bought 270 first line Buffet clarinets and saxes!!
>
> I was the 3rd largest customer Buffet had west of the Mississippi.
>
> What a ball! I was selling to the Boston Symphony, San Francisco
Symphony, ---Leon Russianoff!!!
>
> I personally picked up an R13Eb, C, Bb, Bb, A, S1Bb---now with a student
of mine in Boston---and an S series alto sax, which I later sold for a spar=
e
Mk VI . Buffet also presented me with an 150th Anniv. Bb! I purchased an
E13Bb too, but I don't remember if that was then or later.
>
> I got to hang out with Joe Allard while selling 35 clarinets in Boston in
5 1/2 weeks.
>
> My father had died in August and I went back to Boston at Christmas to
spend a few weeks to make my grandmother feel a bit better. I was staying a=
t
my other grandmothers house and had dozens of Buffets in her kitchen where =
I
set them up. It gave her a real thrill to see what her grandson did for wor=
k
and to have people like Leon Russianoff calling her house.
>
> It was great hearing all these really fine players in Boston trying out
clarinets---EVERY DAY!!!!
>
> I personally tried out over 120 Bb's in a few months!! Also I had this
pick of a HUGE litter for myself on each of those clarinets, except the C
which was the only one and is a fantastic horn!
>
> There are so many stories from that year!!! Some of them, alas, should no=
t
be told.....some people like to keep their dirty behavior secret!
>
> BUT...
>
> Here IS a story I have kept quiet lo these many years.............
>
> We all have heard how clarinets have to made from aged wood...
>
> The story from inside the company was that Tolchin, in order to try to
save the company, and meet his huge notes, finally reached into the supplie=
s
and used some wood that was not that aged???? True--false????? That would b=
e
the clarinets in the 150,000 serial number range??? Normal crackage was in
the 2 12% range. From this "green?" wood we only got 1 1/2%........ Many of
you know that that particular number range were some of the finest Buffets
ever made. So---let the mystery rise!!!!! Was that wood green? Why was the
crackage rate lower? (at least in my store.---we had a total of 3!) Green
wood doesn't make as good a clarinet---yet that serial number range is
especially good......
>
> Were they green??????
>
> OH---official retail for the Bb was $750 in early 1975-----$700 in 1976!
>
> Kurt Heisig
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Fay <kevinfay@-----.com>
> Sent: Sep 25, 2004 11:03 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: RE: [kl] re: Buffet 1965 Clarinet
>
> D. Blumberg posted:
>
> <<<Volume Dealer Price???? No - I bought my first R-13 Buffet in 1977 an=
d
> the cost was $575 I paid at Chuck Levins Washington Music Store. The pric=
e
> of $500 in 1965 can't possibly be right. Should be more like $375-400 top=
s
> and that's what I paid so maybe even less ($350). I remember the price o=
f
> mine back then as I paid for it cutting lawns as an 8th grader.>>>
>
> David - you didn't get a deal. My 1st R-13 was purchased in 1977 as well=
,
> for $325 from Sam Ash (back when they sold such things). Friends were
> buying S-1s on special from Zeps for $280, which is likely the discount
> price at the time. I held out for the R-13 and paid more for it.
>
> kjf
>
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