Klarinet Archive - Posting 000766.txt from 2004/07

From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tony=20Pay?= <tony_pay@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: Measuring sound character
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 07:49:09 -0400

--- Bill Hausmann <bhausmann1@-----.net> wrote:

> >Dr Pyne said: "...there's simply too much data in a graph. Should we
> >look at individual peaks or valleys in the graph, or at relationships
> >between certain peaks or valleys, or at summations of entire bands that
> >include a peak or valley, or at relationships between summations of
> >various bands, or at smoothness of the slopes that lead toward certain
> >peaks or valleys, or at relationships between the smoothnesses of slopes
> >that lead to certain peaks or valleys......etc etc etc?"
>
> I never said it was going to be EASY! But like I said, if it can be
> established that there IS a significant, consistent, repeatable difference
> in the sound as revealed by the graphs, THEN you can go about delving into
> the possible MEANING of that difference.

The implication of what Pyne said is that there is no way to choose, amongst
the infinite number of differences and similarities between two graphs, which
differences and similarities to concentrate on. Our ear/brain systems, which
have evolved inner templates against which we match incoming sounds, have
'their own notions' of what the important differences are. And though all of
us *embody* them, we don't understand intellectually, or analytically, very
much at all about those mechanisms.

Tony

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