Klarinet Archive - Posting 000171.txt from 2004/07

From: "David McClune" <dmcclune@-----.edu>
Subj: Re: [kl] Revelli
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 15:28:15 -0400

Howard,

I was not sure whether to say what I originally said, but I based my
remarks on having played for him as a doctoral student (he guested at
FSU) and conversations with a great many players who played for him as
you did. In addition I have many of the recordings he did at UofM, and
they are truly remarkable.

However I do have serious concerns, pedagogically, over his, and many
other BDs of that generation. The style of negative treatment of
students is not the most effective and efficient way to motivate
students (based on current research). To spend a few days watching and
hearing Allan McMurry from UC Boulder work a band is inspirational for
the love of the students and the love of music making which occurs.

Respectfully yours

Dave

Dr. David McClune
Professor of Woodwinds
Director of Bands
Union University-1862
1050 Union University Drive
Jackson, TN 38305

Office-731-661-5294
dmcclune@-----.edu
www.mcclunemouthpiece.com

>>> shertzhg@-----.edu 07/05/04 01:43PM >>>
Dave,

I played under Revelli in the University of Michigan band in 1963-1967.
The
man was inspiring, and totally professional.
For example, if a clarinet player did not have a good playable spare
reed,
he/she could be sent away from rehearsal with some humiliation. And
why
not? He was training students to be professional musicians. Can you
imagine
a professional musician without a spare reed?

And the man was a musical genius. He taught us musicianship. We did not
just
play notes and follow dynamics. We played music. He was one of the
most
inspiring men I have ever met. I would respect your comments if you
played
in his bands. If you haven't, you don't know what you are talking
about.

Howard

Howard G. Shertzer, Ph.D.
Professor of Environmental Health & Center for Environmental Genetics
Director of Environmental Genetics & Molecular Toxicology Graduate
Program
University of Cincinnati Medical Center
Cincinnati, OH 45267-0056
Voice (513) 558-0522; Fax (513) 558-0925
Email shertzhg@-----.edu

----- Original Message -----
From: "David McClune" <dmcclune@-----.edu>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 1:37 PM
Subject: RE: [kl] bumblebee

> Dan,
>
> Your last comment, quoted below, is the understatement of the month!
> Revelli was a band conductor in the Toscanni style. Loud, bullish,
> humiliating, somewhat sadistic, and he created a style of band
directing
> which is still neagatively affecting music education.
>
> Yes he had fantastic sounding bands, but at what long term cost. In
a
> large research study about 15 years ago it was discovered that the
> average HS band director (not the sadistic ones) used 95% negative
> comments in rehearsals! In counseling, over 50% of negative is
abuse.
>
> Another study, unrelated to the first, about 5 years later
discovered
> that the average dropout rate between high school and college band
for
> band players was 95%. Makes you wonder!
>
> Boy has this discussion changed from a buzzing fat bee!
>
> Dave
>
>
> Dr. David McClune
> Professor of Woodwinds
> Director of Bands
> Union University-1862
> 1050 Union University Drive
> Jackson, TN 38305
>
> Office-731-661-5294
> dmcclune@-----.edu
> www.mcclunemouthpiece.com
> >>> dnleeson@-----.net 07/05/04 11:36 AM >>>
>
> That Revelli must have had some ego.
>
> Dan Leeson
> DNLeeson@-----.net
>
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Forest Aten [mailto:forestaten@-----.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 9:12 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] bumblebee
>
>
>
> Remember Jimmie
> > Burke, the solo cornettist with the Goldman Band. As far as I
> > was able to determine, he could ONLY play fast.)
> >
> > Dan Leeson
> > DNLeeson@-----.net
> >
> >
> Dan,
>
> Do you have any of the old Goldman Band recordings?
> I can remember, as a kid, listening to a remarkable recording of
> the band.
> Jimmy Abado performed the final movement from the Tchaikovsky vio
> lin
> concerto.....wow, what incredible tonguing.
> I owned this recording many, many years ago. My Mother tossed it
> in a
> cleaning frenzy. I would love to hear it again after 40 years
> passing. I've
> searched the net...without luck.
>
> Forest Aten
>
>
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