Klarinet Archive - Posting 000412.txt from 2004/06

From: "Warren Rosenberg" <wrosenberg47@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Dubya - not clarinet related.
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 19:08:13 -0400

I rest my case. You've said IT ALL!
Thanks! You're the MAN! You WIN! Allah Akbar!

You
----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Lloyd" <Matthew@-----.uk>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:26 PM
Subject: [kl] Dubya - not clarinet related.

> I'm afraid I'm not going to stop criticising Bush. Either on this forum
> or elsewhere, and certainly not for Mr. Rosenberg. He is a dangerous
> idiot.
>
> Of course Bin Ladin is a dangerous and deranged individual. To have
> supervised the organisation of the destruction of the World Trade Center
> he could be nothing else. But what the American government need to look
> at why he did, is still doing it and will do it again. The American
> policy in the Middle East has angered very many around the world - not
> just Muslims - and many non-Americans wonder why it is acceptable for
> the Israeli government to ignore UN resolutions and yet not acceptable
> for Saddam Hussain.
>
> America needs to take a good look at itself in the world - these attacks
> happen for a reason and need to be understood - as well as challenged. I
> don't for one moment suggest that capitulation is the answer - but
> addressing some of the issues behind the hostility of Bin Ladin will
> lance the boil far more efficiently than acting as his recruiting agent
> - which in many ways is what Bush is doing.
>
> Don't forget that a Muslim killed in Jihad becomes a martyr and ascends
> to paradise to be surrounded by virgins. Young impressionable Muslims
> are all too easy to recruit on this basis.
>
> I find it strange that a government that is supposedly trying to instil
> Western values into the Middle East thinks that torture is a suitable
> weapon to use. Surely it is important to maintain our ideals of Justice
> above all, or we will be brought down to the level of terrorists
> ourselves.
>
> Matthew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Warren Rosenberg [mailto:wrosenberg47@-----.net]
> Sent: 25 June 2004 19:33
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Mr. Rosenberg and the Customs of Klarinet
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Matthew Lloyd" <Matthew@-----.uk>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:24 AM
> Subject: [kl] Mr. Rosenberg and the Customs of Klarinet
>
>
> > Mr. Rosenberg,
> >
> > I think the custom of Klarinet, if you want us all to honour it, is
> for
> > a mixture off topic discussions and on topic discussions.
> >
> To ML: An off topic discussion can be sent privately. People have
> separate
> individual email addresses. May I repeat your last suggestion? "Is
> this
> something you have
> > over there? If so, why not use it occasionally." Yes, Matthew, did
> you
> know that you don't have to tell everyone on the Klarinet list, your
> splendid ideas on how to govern the USA?
>
> > It's also a custom (which you are honouring) of complaining about
> emails
> > that verge (or veer) off topic.
>
> To ML: In a day of throat cuttings and airline hijackings and God knows
> what else is down the pike, I don't consider political discussions just
> an
> "off-topic" discussion. Do you? There exist thousands of other
> alternatives for your anti-US government opinions such as private email,
> chat lines, snail mail, meeting in your local sleeper cell with your
> friends, etc. Why not humble yourself and use these other sources for
> your
> brilliant comments? Yes, Matthew, why?
> >
> > There is a useful button on my computer to delete emails unread if the
> > title suggests I am not interested in it. Is this something you have
> > over there? If so, why not use it occasionally?
>
> To ML: Nice condescending comment! Yes, I'll try the delete button. I
> didn't know what it was for. Unfortunately I won't be using it on
> Klarinet
> for your pithy emails. I'll be writing you back and anyone else who
> wishes
> to harp on the President and/or government of the USA which is under
> attack
> by Moslem "fundamentalists". You or anyone else can write me back
> personally at:
> wrosenberg47@-----. Let's leave Klarinet for
> Klarinetists.
>
>
> >
> > Matthew Lloyd >
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