Klarinet Archive - Posting 000326.txt from 2004/05

From: Eric Bell <bell@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Re: re: no one left behind
Date: Sat, 15 May 2004 12:19:15 -0400

I am dismally behind in reading postings but I came across this (after
deleting about 30 messages from the same person.....) and wanted to point
out that many students with Asbergers have higher than average IQs and with
ability grouping would probably end up with peers of higher than average
intelligence. We do have evidence supporting the need for gifted students
to spend at least part of their time with similarly capable students.

I would also disagree with the perception that was voiced that the bulk of
resources were targeted towards the disabled and then the gifted. While
this may be the case in some localities it hasn't been my experience. What
I've generally seen is an educational experience for the gifted with a
little "icing" but not qualitatively different than what is being offered
to the rest of the school population. If it were then perhaps we wouldn't
have so many gifted individuals who become disengaged with our educational
system and drop out. It is a great loss that I don't believe can be laid
solely at the feet of the particular students or their parents.

My belief is that EVERY child is entitled to an appropriate education and
that every child can learn. It isn't easy- and ultimately won't be cheap
to achieve this.............
Take Care,
Anne

At 04:55 PM 3/18/2004 -0500, you wrote:

>>Somehow, it works for my son. His IQ is not 90. However, 90 Is the low
>>side of the average IQ range. Here's a list of famous people who were
>>believed to have Asperger's syndrome or another form of autism.....they
>>would not have been allowed to be included in class, were it up to you,
>>Dave....
>>
>>Jane Austen
>>Bela Bartok
>>Ludwig vanBeethoven
>>Alexander Graham Bell
>>Anton Bruckner
>>Henry Cavendish
>>Emily Dickinson
>>Thomas Edison
>>Albert Einstein
>>Henry Ford
>>Kaspar Hauser
>>Oliver Heaviside
>>Thomas Jefferson
>>Carl Jung
>>Franz Kafka
>>Gustav Mahler
>>Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
>>Isaac Newton
>>Friedrich Nietzsche
>>Bertrand Russell
>>George Bernard Shaw
>>Richard Strauss
>>Nikola Tesla
>>Henry Thoreau
>>Mark Twain
>>Vincent Van Gogh
>>
>>There are more........
>>
>>Isaac Asimov
>>John Denver
>>Glenn Gould
>>Jim Henson
>>Alfred Hitchcock
>>Howard Hughes
>>Andy Kaufman
>>Charles Schulz
>>Andy Warhol
>>
>>Anyway.....notice that these people are all creative/mathematical/musical.
>>They say Bill Gates also has Aspie traits. These are people with "quirks"
>>or annoying traits. People who had problems communicating with the rest of
>>the world. Social skills was not their forte. What if they were all
>>shoved in the dumping ground with the other people who weren't like all the
>>rest?
>>

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Bayside HS Orchestra Director
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