Klarinet Archive - Posting 000135.txt from 2004/05

From: Georg.Kuehner@-----.de (Georg K=?ISO-8859-1?B?/A==?=hner)
Subj: Re: [kl] Vibrato in Nature?
Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 02:00:30 -0400

Hello Tony,

The term natural is probably slightly different used in the German language=
.
Most singers mean if they speak about natural vibrato of a "not too fast"
and "not to wide" vibrato!
The problem with vibrato is that there are two different ways to vibrate an=
d
"normally" they are used together (stomach and throat vibrato) to make a
"natural" vibrato!

Gru=DF Georg K=FChner

Georg K=FChner
Klarinetten, Saxophone
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Am 06.05.2004 12:48 Uhr schrieb "Tony Pay" unter <tony.p@-----.org>:

> In message <BCBFDD1B.5D5B%520045578938-0001@-----.de>
> Georg.Kuehner@-----.de (Georg K=FChner) wrote:
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>> Am 06.05.2004 11:15 Uhr schrieb "Tony Pay" unter <tony.p@-----.org>:
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>>> Apart from man-made sounds, I was unable to think of an example of
>>> vibrato in any animal or bird cry -- apart perhaps from the whinny of a
>>> horse.
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>>> Does anyone know of any other example? Some exotic bird perhaps?
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>> Animals narmally don't use a certain frequency and hold it as You do
>> playing clarinet! When I had to sing in University our teacher told us i=
t
>> is necessary for vocal chords to release and therefore the use of the
>> vibrato is healthy vor the voice. (Singing very loud and long)
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>> I hope this helps!
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> Thanks, Georg.
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> But, with regard to the clarinet, I didn't want to make my enquiry in any
> sense polemical, which is why I started a new thread with a different
> subject heading. The fact that animals do or don't do vibrato would be n=
o
> argument that we should or shouldn't, after all.
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> I just wanted to know if any animal sounds incorporated vibrato, as a res=
ult
> of thinking about the various ways in which the words 'natural' and
> 'vibrato' can be meaningfully combined.
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> I do see that another way of attempting to combine them is in the polemic
> your teacher used to encourage you to vibrate whilst singing, namely:
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> 'natural =3D healthy' + 'vibrato =3D healthy' --> 'vibrato =3D natural'
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> ...but that has no medical basis that I know of.
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> So,
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>>> Does anyone know of any other example? Some exotic bird perhaps?
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> Tony

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