Klarinet Archive - Posting 000106.txt from 2004/05

From: "Dan Leeson" <dnleeson@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Questions on Bartok Concerto for Orchestra
Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 12:47:33 -0400

Allen's response to the question posed originally is very
interesting and revealing.

The original poster questioned the pitch of the clarinet of a
passage in the Bartok Concerto for Orchestra solely because of
his opinion that "it worked better on the other clarinet." Now
Allen comes along as says that it seems OK to him.

This shows that opinion or subjective judgement on which pitched
clarinet to use is certainly not a universal truth. And I
mention this solely because almost every time a change from the
composer-directed clarinet takes place it is invariably
accompanied by the assertion that "it works better" on the other
clarinet. And that kind of thinking swiftly invades the clarinet
world so as to justify any change from any clarinet to any other
under any circumstance including the weather.

I can understand the "insufficient time to change instument"
argument (though I don't believe it), but the "It works better on
the other clarinet" argument translated to English from English
should read, "I like it that way," which under almost all
circumstances is no reason at all.

If I were not a clarinet player, I would be tempted to say that
all clarinet players are suckers for subjective arguments that
they wisper to themsevles and which have little basis for being
asserted as universal truths.

Dan Leeson
DNLeeson@-----.net

-----Original Message-----
From: Allen Levin [mailto:alevin@-----.net]
Sent: Thursday, May 06, 2004 9:05 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] Questions on Bartok Concerto for Orchestra

Opinion on 2nd question: Both measures are written as Bartok
intended. The change has always seemed correct to me as a
listener, so, as
a player I play it. It appears that way in both of my scores.

>Second Question:
>
>In the Giuoco Delle Coppie, in the clarinet duet solo, measures
48 and 49,
>the part indicates a slur into the eighth note after the
sixteenths.
>Later, in
>the recurrence of the theme, in 201 and 202, the part indicates
the eighth
>note
>should be tongued.
>
>Anyone know which one is correct?

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