Klarinet Archive - Posting 001044.txt from 2004/03

From: "mlmarmer" <mlmarmer@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] Use of the word
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 21:37:02 -0500

Of all the internet groups I am on, about 15, from Baseball, to folk music
(5), Classical music, a kids book from the 1960's, model trains (2) , and
Klarinet, this one is becoming the weirdest of them all.

Maybe it has to do with the spelling of clarinet. Just kidding on that
line. Hey at least it has something to with CLARINET and the other garbage
going on.

Really bizarre!

Mike Marmer
Germantown, MD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Andy Jablonski" <ajablons@-----.org>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 5:38 PM
Subject: RE: [kl] Use of the word

> How about we all just stop? :)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Drennan [mailto:psa119@-----.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:33 PM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Use of the word FUCK
>
> It's starting to sound like some children who have just discovered their
> first curse word rahter than some adults who should know better.
>
> Gary
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Andy Jablonski" <ajablons@-----.org>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:39 PM
> Subject: RE: [kl] Use of the word FUCK
>
>
> > I don't care about profanity, but could we keep it out of the subject
line
> > at least. I review these mails at work, and it can make things awkward.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Lloyd [mailto:Matthew@-----.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:37 AM
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: [kl] Use of the word FUCK
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > I'll assume that you are serious. Bible bashers are not known for
> > humour. I assume you are a member of one of the low churches?
> >
> > You are suggesting that a list for those who play the CLARINET should
> > ostracise one of the leading clarinet players of the day, a player who
> > has made recordings that any of the rest of us would dream of making and
> > at the same time engaging in discussions that I (for one) have found of
> > great interest - just for starters think of the recent discussion on
> > K622.
> >
> > Add to that the intelligent posts he makes on a wide range of issues
> > makes him one of the contributors to this list that I value most. Tony
> > is clearly an erudite man who we can all learn from (and who can
> > probably defend himself better than I can.....)
> >
> > You say in a subsequent post "Hence my enjoyment of this list. I am
> > greatly helped by the exposure to knowledgeable opinions." How much more
> > knowledgeable do you want?
> >
> > Of all the evils in the world today fundamentalist Christianity is
> > possibly the most dangerous. (It is certainly in the top three with
> > fundamental Muslims and climate change). If Bush, Blair and Aznar had
> > not prosecuted an illegal war then (in all likelihood) two hundred
> > people would be alive in Madrid today. Certainly the world is a less
> > safe place since they have illegally removed a man who (whilst certainly
> > evil) offered no threat to any on the invading armies and who was
> > opposed to Bin Laden. Citing "scripture" in this context seems to
> > suggest (or at least does to me) that you would be one of those with a
> > religious outlook that would allay yourself to Bush's view of
> > Christianity.
> >
> > And you complain of the use of the word FUCK.......
> >
> > And I wonder why the world is in the state that it is.......
> >
> > Matthew Lloyd
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Drennan [mailto:psa119@-----.net]
> > Sent: 17 March 2004 15:52
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department
> >
> > I would urge the list manager to remove Tony Pay from the list for the
> > use
> > of profanity in his posts. I can handle off topic posts, conservatives,
> > Republicans, and resonite clarinets, but I am deeply disturbing at
> > reading a
> > post and having to endure cursing. TV is bad enough with what they
> > force
> > you to watch during commercials, but this list is no place for foulness.
> >
> > "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness, their feet are swift to
> > shed
> > blood, destruction and misery are in their paths, and the path of peace
> > they
> > have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes." Romans
> > 3:14-18
> >
> > If Tony's list of adjectives to describe the clarient is so short that
> > he
> > must curse it, perhaps he should consider playing something else, such
> > as
> > the radio.
> >
> > Gary Drennan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Pay" <tony.p@-----.org>
> > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department
> >
> >
> > > In message <26559-40576586-6391@-----.net>
> > > ormondtoby@-----.net (Ormondtoby Montoya) wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was wrong to include my comment about learning handicaps when I
> > posted
> > > > about schools who have dropped music.
> > > >
> > > > The 'proper' distribution of resources between disabled and
> > non-disabled
> > > > is not on-topic here, and I was wrong to bring it up.
> > > >
> > > > We do not want another "amendment' blow-up on this list.
> > >
> > > Well, the problem I had was that I didn't understand what you wrote.
> > >
> > > You said,
> > >
> > > > Although this doesn't relate to music, test scores of special
> > education
> > > > students (learning disabled) are penalized for using calculators and
> > > > dictionaries during an exam. So one of our school districts is
> > considering
> > > > taking calculators and dictionaries away from special education
> > students
> > in
> > > > order to improve the _district's_ overall test scores -- even though
> > the
> > > > special education students will do worse in their tests. Poorer
> > > > performance, better scores. Talk about double-speak.
> > >
> > > Can you explain a bit more clearly? Did you mean:
> > >
> > > > ...one of our school districts is considering taking calculators and
> > > > dictionaries away from ALL students in order to improve the
> > _district's_
> > > > overall test scores -- even though the special education students
> > will
> > do
> > > > [much] worse in their tests.
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Of course, I know that some people here will DIE of HEART ATTACKS if
> > you
> > talk
> > > about something important -- like understanding an argument -- that
> > isn't
> > > about the fucking CLARINET.
> > >
> > > Let them.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > > --
> > > _________ Tony Pay
> > > |ony:-) 79 Southmoor Rd tony.p@-----.org
> > > | |ay Oxford OX2 6RE
> > http://classicalplus.gmn.com/artists
> > > tel/fax 01865 553339
> > >
> > > ... If he learns from his mistakes, pretty soon he'll know everything!
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