Klarinet Archive - Posting 001033.txt from 2004/03

From: "Dallas SCUBA" <forest_aten@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] not just the music department
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 19:09:23 -0500


> >
> > > I would urge the list manager to remove Tony Pay from the list for the
> use
> > > of profanity in his posts. I can handle off topic posts,
conservatives,
> > > Republicans, and resonite clarinets, but I am deeply disturbing at
> reading
> > a
> > > post and having to endure cursing. TV is bad enough with what they
> force
> > > you to watch during commercials, but this list is no place for
foulness.
> > >
> > > "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness, their feet are swift
to
> > shed
> > > blood, destruction and misery are in their paths, and the path of
peace
> > they
> > > have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes." Romans
> 3:14-18
> > >
> > > If Tony's list of adjectives to describe the clarient is so short that
> he
> > > must curse it, perhaps he should consider playing something else, such
> as
> > > the radio.
> > >
> > > Gary Drennan
> > >
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > I find your Bible thumping quotes far more offensive than a curse word
> used
> > by Tony. This "fear of God" stuff is abusive and self serving. Knock it
> > off.....:-)
> >
> > A starting place for learning how to argue:
> > http://www.unco.edu/philosophy/arg.html I'm sure there are many URL's
> > discussing formal argument.
> >
> > Tony's point....I believe, was to let the group know that off topic
> subject
> > matter is fine (he's said that several times in the past several
> weeks)...as
> > long as it's presented with reasonable argument. He's made this same
point
> > often with our primary topic...clarinet. Tony rarely curses on the list.
> > What he contributes to the group, both in content about clarinet and his
> > good example when presenting reasoned argument, is extremely valuable.
> >
> > Forest Aten
>
> Just because a quote comes from a religious source does not make it any
less
> true. In ancient times, people needed rules for getting along together
just
> as we need laws today. To get people to obey reasonable and necessary
> rules, they put them into the religious context hoping that "the fear of
> God" would keep them on the straight and narrow since ordinary social
> pressure might be inadequate and they did not have law enforcement as we
> know it today.
>
> For example, "The Golden Rule" as it is called shows up in a variety of
> wordings in religions and philosophies around the world. Why? Because it
> lays down a guideline that if followed makes for a very workable society.
>
> Have we become so paranoid about religion that we must ignore any quote or
> philosophy coming from such a source? Why must we "throw out the baby
with
> the bathwater" because we object to the water?
>
>
Dee,

Perhaps we don't need the water.....the "holy water" that is. Any old water
will do.

Forest

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