Klarinet Archive - Posting 001025.txt from 2004/03

From: "Gary Drennan" <psa119@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] not just the music department
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:47:51 -0500

Should I not buy their albums as well, or benefit from their knowledge? You
sould read the retraction I posted before you reply.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Naden" <dnaden@-----.org>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 3:49 PM
Subject: RE: [kl] not just the music department

Gary--

I have been a long-time list member, and unless I am mistaken, you are a
relatively new addition to this list. If the language occasionally used
by some of the most experienced and knowledgeable clarinetists--and
musicians--in the world offend you, I suggest that you take leave of the
list, as opposed of requesting that said clarinetists and musicians be
removed from the list. This is an unmoderated list, and irrelavent
topics are more of a problem than the language used.

David S. Naden, MMus
Cal State University Los Angeles

-----Original Message-----
From: Gary Drennan [mailto:psa119@-----.net]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:12 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department

Forest,

First of all, since you chose to send your response to the list, I am
obligated to respond in kind. That you should be offended by the Word of
God and not by the cursing of man is a sad thing. But you mis-understand
my posts. I am presenting no point for argument and no philosophy for
debate. I am stating a fact. If you desire to disagree, you are free to
do so, but no reputable scholar should begin with the absurdity.of
treating any sacred text as an obscenity. Tha't like playing a clarinet
with drumsticks. As it says in Romans 3:4 "May it never be! Rather, let
God be found true, though every man be found a liar, as it is written,
'THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE
JUDGED.'"

The Scriptures also speak against "arguing about words to no profit," (2
Tim. 2:14) so think about what you are defending before you begin. And
lest the accusation be made about shoving one's religion down anyone's
throat, bear this in mind. I have made no effort whatsoever to force
anyone to accept what I say or believe as I do, anymore than one who
prefers VanDoren reeds over Gonzalez and says so makes that attempt.
Such an action would be disrespectful of all parties involved, including
God.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dallas SCUBA" <forest_aten@-----.com>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department

> Gary,
>
> I find your Bible thumping quotes far more offensive than a curse word
used
> by Tony. This "fear of God" stuff is abusive and self serving. Knock
> it
> off.....:-)
>
> A starting place for learning how to argue:
> http://www.unco.edu/philosophy/arg.html I'm sure there are many URL's
> discussing formal argument.
>
> Forest Aten
>
>
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