Klarinet Archive - Posting 001024.txt from 2004/03

From: "Dee D. Flint" <deehays@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] not just the music department
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 18:44:41 -0500


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From: "Dallas SCUBA" <forest_aten@-----.com>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department

>
>
> > I would urge the list manager to remove Tony Pay from the list for the
use
> > of profanity in his posts. I can handle off topic posts, conservatives,
> > Republicans, and resonite clarinets, but I am deeply disturbing at
reading
> a
> > post and having to endure cursing. TV is bad enough with what they
force
> > you to watch during commercials, but this list is no place for foulness.
> >
> > "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness, their feet are swift to
> shed
> > blood, destruction and misery are in their paths, and the path of peace
> they
> > have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes." Romans
3:14-18
> >
> > If Tony's list of adjectives to describe the clarient is so short that
he
> > must curse it, perhaps he should consider playing something else, such
as
> > the radio.
> >
> > Gary Drennan
> >
>
> Gary,
>
> I find your Bible thumping quotes far more offensive than a curse word
used
> by Tony. This "fear of God" stuff is abusive and self serving. Knock it
> off.....:-)
>
> A starting place for learning how to argue:
> http://www.unco.edu/philosophy/arg.html I'm sure there are many URL's
> discussing formal argument.
>
> Tony's point....I believe, was to let the group know that off topic
subject
> matter is fine (he's said that several times in the past several
weeks)...as
> long as it's presented with reasonable argument. He's made this same point
> often with our primary topic...clarinet. Tony rarely curses on the list.
> What he contributes to the group, both in content about clarinet and his
> good example when presenting reasoned argument, is extremely valuable.
>
> Forest Aten

Just because a quote comes from a religious source does not make it any less
true. In ancient times, people needed rules for getting along together just
as we need laws today. To get people to obey reasonable and necessary
rules, they put them into the religious context hoping that "the fear of
God" would keep them on the straight and narrow since ordinary social
pressure might be inadequate and they did not have law enforcement as we
know it today.

For example, "The Golden Rule" as it is called shows up in a variety of
wordings in religions and philosophies around the world. Why? Because it
lays down a guideline that if followed makes for a very workable society.

Have we become so paranoid about religion that we must ignore any quote or
philosophy coming from such a source? Why must we "throw out the baby with
the bathwater" because we object to the water?

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