Klarinet Archive - Posting 001011.txt from 2004/03

From: "Gary Drennan" <psa119@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Use of Profanity in Subject Line
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:56:17 -0500

Agreeing to disagree allow all points of view. Everyone else is including
their religion.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Christianson-Wood, Jan (JUS)" <Jchristian@-----.ca>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 3:12 PM
Subject: RE: [kl] Use of Profanity in Subject Line

> Thanks to Andy Jablonski for this comment--it probably explains why my
> previous posting on this topic never made it onto the list. It may have
been
> screened out by our office filters. Why don't we just agree to disagree
and
> leave religion out of it. (I hope that the office internet police won't be
> tracking me down to chastise me for the foul language.)
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Andy Jablonski [SMTP:ajablons@-----.org]
> > Sent: 2004-Mar-17 1:39 PM
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: RE: [kl] Use of the word FUCK
> >
> > I don't care about profanity, but could we keep it out of the subject
line
> > at least. I review these mails at work, and it can make things awkward.
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matthew Lloyd [mailto:Matthew@-----.uk]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 9:37 AM
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: [kl] Use of the word FUCK
> >
> > Gary,
> >
> > I'll assume that you are serious. Bible bashers are not known for
> > humour. I assume you are a member of one of the low churches?
> >
> > You are suggesting that a list for those who play the CLARINET should
> > ostracise one of the leading clarinet players of the day, a player who
> > has made recordings that any of the rest of us would dream of making and
> > at the same time engaging in discussions that I (for one) have found of
> > great interest - just for starters think of the recent discussion on
> > K622.
> >
> > Add to that the intelligent posts he makes on a wide range of issues
> > makes him one of the contributors to this list that I value most. Tony
> > is clearly an erudite man who we can all learn from (and who can
> > probably defend himself better than I can.....)
> >
> > You say in a subsequent post "Hence my enjoyment of this list. I am
> > greatly helped by the exposure to knowledgeable opinions." How much more
> > knowledgeable do you want?
> >
> > Of all the evils in the world today fundamentalist Christianity is
> > possibly the most dangerous. (It is certainly in the top three with
> > fundamental Muslims and climate change). If Bush, Blair and Aznar had
> > not prosecuted an illegal war then (in all likelihood) two hundred
> > people would be alive in Madrid today. Certainly the world is a less
> > safe place since they have illegally removed a man who (whilst certainly
> > evil) offered no threat to any on the invading armies and who was
> > opposed to Bin Laden. Citing "scripture" in this context seems to
> > suggest (or at least does to me) that you would be one of those with a
> > religious outlook that would allay yourself to Bush's view of
> > Christianity.
> >
> > And you complain of the use of the word FUCK.......
> >
> > And I wonder why the world is in the state that it is.......
> >
> > Matthew Lloyd
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gary Drennan [mailto:psa119@-----.net]
> > Sent: 17 March 2004 15:52
> > To: klarinet@-----.org
> > Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department
> >
> > I would urge the list manager to remove Tony Pay from the list for the
> > use
> > of profanity in his posts. I can handle off topic posts, conservatives,
> > Republicans, and resonite clarinets, but I am deeply disturbing at
> > reading a
> > post and having to endure cursing. TV is bad enough with what they
> > force
> > you to watch during commercials, but this list is no place for foulness.
> >
> > "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness, their feet are swift to
> > shed
> > blood, destruction and misery are in their paths, and the path of peace
> > they
> > have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes." Romans
> > 3:14-18
> >
> > If Tony's list of adjectives to describe the clarient is so short that
> > he
> > must curse it, perhaps he should consider playing something else, such
> > as
> > the radio.
> >
> > Gary Drennan
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tony Pay" <tony.p@-----.org>
> > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:04 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department
> >
> >
> > > In message <26559-40576586-6391@-----.net>
> > > ormondtoby@-----.net (Ormondtoby Montoya) wrote:
> > >
> > > > I was wrong to include my comment about learning handicaps when I
> > posted
> > > > about schools who have dropped music.
> > > >
> > > > The 'proper' distribution of resources between disabled and
> > non-disabled
> > > > is not on-topic here, and I was wrong to bring it up.
> > > >
> > > > We do not want another "amendment' blow-up on this list.
> > >
> > > Well, the problem I had was that I didn't understand what you wrote.
> > >
> > > You said,
> > >
> > > > Although this doesn't relate to music, test scores of special
> > education
> > > > students (learning disabled) are penalized for using calculators and
> > > > dictionaries during an exam. So one of our school districts is
> > considering
> > > > taking calculators and dictionaries away from special education
> > students
> > in
> > > > order to improve the _district's_ overall test scores -- even though
> > the
> > > > special education students will do worse in their tests. Poorer
> > > > performance, better scores. Talk about double-speak.
> > >
> > > Can you explain a bit more clearly? Did you mean:
> > >
> > > > ...one of our school districts is considering taking calculators and
> > > > dictionaries away from ALL students in order to improve the
> > _district's_
> > > > overall test scores -- even though the special education students
> > will
> > do
> > > > [much] worse in their tests.
> > >
> > > ?
> > >
> > > Of course, I know that some people here will DIE of HEART ATTACKS if
> > you
> > talk
> > > about something important -- like understanding an argument -- that
> > isn't
> > > about the fucking CLARINET.
> > >
> > > Let them.
> > >
> > > Tony
> > > --
> > > _________ Tony Pay
> > > |ony:-) 79 Southmoor Rd tony.p@-----.org
> > > | |ay Oxford OX2 6RE
> > http://classicalplus.gmn.com/artists
> > > tel/fax 01865 553339
> > >
> > > ... If he learns from his mistakes, pretty soon he'll know everything!
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