Klarinet Archive - Posting 001001.txt from 2004/03

From: "Gary Drennan" <psa119@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] not just the music department
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:35:23 -0500

Hi Ginger,

If you read my posts, you'd find that the primary thing I was offended by
was the use of profanity. Yes, I was a little ticked at being called a Bush
Republican as well, but hey! PLEASE! Read all the posts before you make that
assumption. Thanks.

BTW, would not my response to the "one little word" be as allowable as those
who defended it's use? Yep, I thought so.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ginger Hill" <Gigi1182@-----.com>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:42 PM
Subject: RE: [kl] not just the music department

> Gary,
>
> You're apparently offended by everything. Lighten up and join the 21st
> century. Just because Tony, in his anger at the general population for
> the lack of clarinet-related posts, used a harsh adjective doesn't mean
> you need to be so hard on him as to request his removal from the
> listserv. This thing is for everybody- from amateurs to pros, and if
> someone wants to express their justified anger at the lack of postings
> with relevance to the topic on hand, let them.
>
> Now Tony, please remember that the word you used is not formally
> accepted in all areas, and please try to keep your verbal cool for those
> of us who may be offended by one little word..
>
> And while you're at it boys, check this out:
> http://www.ebaumsworld.com/fwordflash.html
>
> Try laughing for a change, that's what makes the world go round.
>
> And now, I return you to your regularly scheduled clarinet programming.
>
> French Cut reeds are the "generic" normal reeds everyone uses. The
> german cut reeds are a little different-- they're slightly more narrow
> than "regular" reeds. Check out the difference between Vandored
> Black/White masters, and the regular blue box or V12's. The black/white
> masters are german cut- Apparently the "German" clarinet mouthpiece has
> a slightly narrower opening, to compensate for the narrower bore as
> well. French bore (the one we americans usually play on) is wider too.
>
> And no, I'm not saying the french are fat.
>
> From your lovely peer-moderator,
> Ginger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Drennan [mailto:psa119@-----.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:52 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department
>
>
> I would urge the list manager to remove Tony Pay from the list for the
> use of profanity in his posts. I can handle off topic posts,
> conservatives, Republicans, and resonite clarinets, but I am deeply
> disturbing at reading a post and having to endure cursing. TV is bad
> enough with what they force you to watch during commercials, but this
> list is no place for foulness.
>
> "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness, their feet are swift to
> shed blood, destruction and misery are in their paths, and the path of
> peace they have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes."
> Romans 3:14-18
>
> If Tony's list of adjectives to describe the clarient is so short that
> he must curse it, perhaps he should consider playing something else,
> such as the radio.
>
> Gary Drennan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Pay" <tony.p@-----.org>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department
>
>
> > In message <26559-40576586-6391@-----.net>
> > ormondtoby@-----.net (Ormondtoby Montoya) wrote:
> >
> > > I was wrong to include my comment about learning handicaps when I
> > > posted about schools who have dropped music.
> > >
> > > The 'proper' distribution of resources between disabled and
> > > non-disabled is not on-topic here, and I was wrong to bring it up.
> > >
> > > We do not want another "amendment' blow-up on this list.
> >
> > Well, the problem I had was that I didn't understand what you wrote.
> >
> > You said,
> >
> > > Although this doesn't relate to music, test scores of special
> > > education students (learning disabled) are penalized for using
> > > calculators and dictionaries during an exam. So one of our school
> > > districts is
> considering
> > > taking calculators and dictionaries away from special education
> > > students
> in
> > > order to improve the _district's_ overall test scores -- even though
>
> > > the special education students will do worse in their tests. Poorer
>
> > > performance, better scores. Talk about double-speak.
> >
> > Can you explain a bit more clearly? Did you mean:
> >
> > > ...one of our school districts is considering taking calculators and
>
> > > dictionaries away from ALL students in order to improve the
> > > _district's_ overall test scores -- even though the special
> > > education students will
> do
> > > [much] worse in their tests.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Of course, I know that some people here will DIE of HEART ATTACKS if
> > you
> talk
> > about something important -- like understanding an argument -- that
> > isn't about the fucking CLARINET.
> >
> > Let them.
> >
> > Tony
> > --
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> >
> > ... If he learns from his mistakes, pretty soon he'll know everything!
> >
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