Klarinet Archive - Posting 001000.txt from 2004/03

From: "Gary Drennan" <psa119@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] not just the music department
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 17:33:21 -0500

Hi Mark,

You are correct. that section of Romans is compiled from a few different
places in the Old Testament. I was using the New American Standard 1995,
which is a fairly good translation for accuracy. And I agree with you; I
don't want to have to depend on subtitles for a movie in Greek and Aramaic.
I have almost no vision left, so subtitles don't really float my boat.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thiel, Mark" <mark.thiel@-----.com>
To: <klarinet@-----.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department

Gary Drennan wrote:
>
> "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness, their feet
> are swift to shed blood, destruction and misery are in their
> paths, and the path of peace they have not known. There is no
> fear of God before their eyes." Romans 3:14-18
>
Erik wrote:
>So ignore it. I object more to quoting from religious texts (not all of
us
>subscribe to yours), but I won't call for your expulsion...

And if you _are_ quoting, it would be nice if the quote is accurate and
in context. Gary's quotation seems to be from the King James Version,
but not with the original punctuation. This version seems to imply that
the cursing and bitterness leads to feet shedding blood, etc.
(foul-mouthed kick-boxers, perhaps?). But the actual King James and a
couple other translations I looked at on the web seem to be saying that
Jews and Greeks alike (with no mention of f**ing Limey players of the
f**ing clarinet) are guilty of a whole list of sins, cursing and bloody
feet among them. In fact the clauses seem to be quotations from
different old testament sources. Disclaimer: This is scriptural
interpretation from a heathen who has NOT run out and studied Greek and
Aramaic so that he could get more out of current cinematic offerings.

Mark Thiel

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