Klarinet Archive - Posting 000984.txt from 2004/03

From: "Dallas SCUBA" <forest_aten@-----.com>
Subj: Re: [kl] not just the music department
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 16:43:22 -0500


> Forest,
>
> First of all, since you chose to send your response to the list, I am
> obligated to respond in kind. That you should be offended by the Word of
God
> and not by the cursing of man is a sad thing. But you mis-understand my
> posts. I am presenting no point for argument and no philosophy for debate.
I
> am stating a fact. If you desire to disagree, you are free to do so, but
no
> reputable scholar should begin with the absurdity.of treating any sacred
> text as an obscenity. Tha't like playing a clarinet with drumsticks. As it
> says in Romans 3:4 "May it never be! Rather, let God be found true,
though
> every man be found a liar, as it is written, 'THAT YOU MAY BE JUSTIFIED IN
> YOUR WORDS, AND PREVAIL WHEN YOU ARE JUDGED.'"
>
> The Scriptures also speak against "arguing about words to no profit," (2
> Tim. 2:14) so think about what you are defending before you begin. And
lest
> the accusation be made about shoving one's religion down anyone's throat,
> bear this in mind. I have made no effort whatsoever to force anyone to
> accept what I say or believe as I do, anymore than one who prefers
VanDoren
> reeds over Gonzalez and says so makes that attempt. Such an action would
be
> disrespectful of all parties involved, including God.
>
> Gary
>

Gary,

"sad thing".....This is your opinion and you are welcome to express
yourself.

I didn't misunderstand your post.

You did present an argument. Via "I would urge the list manager to remove
Tony Pay from the list for the use
of profanity in his posts. I can handle off topic posts, conservatives,
Republicans, and resonite clarinets, but I am deeply disturbing at reading a
post and having to endure cursing. TV is bad enough with what they force
you to watch during commercials, but this list is no place for foulness."
and then tried to use that scripture, "Whose mouth is full of cursing and
bitterness, their feet are swift to shed blood, destruction and misery are
in their paths, and the path of peace they have not known. There is no fear
of God before their eyes." Romans 3:14-18"..... to validate your argument.

You misrepresent my argument by saying, "but no reputable scholar should
begin with the absurdity of treating any sacred text as an obscenity." I
didn't do that.

You have to have "faith" to buy into all of your arguments. I don't have
that kind of faith. I don't care about what the "scriptures" say, except
from a purely academic viewpoint. I'm sure that will make you sad as well.
I'm not interested in debating "the word of God" or being condemned by it
(through people). This includes you.

Proselytizing is proselytizing. You've got it down.

Forest Aten

P.S. Let me offer an apology before the fact. Sorry. I guess in your
reference, "arguing about words to no profit, (2 Tim. 2:14)", is the clue
for me is to shut the 'f*&^ up......as you will continue your proselytizing
despite the fact that it offends me???? Not a very Christian attitude is it
Gary?

Which brings me to a story. Last week someone called our home and ask for
David X. David is the youth minister at the church my wife and daughters
attend. When I told the woman that she had the wrong phone number, she ask
me if I had the correct number. I told her that I didn't. She asked if I
could look it up for her. :-) I told her that I would have to do the exact
same thing that she would have to in order to find the number....use the
phone book and I suggested that she go to it. She responded by saying (in
very unkind terms), "that isn't very Christian of you". ;-) This attitude as
a result of my unwillingness to look up a phone number for a fine upstanding
"Christian". My wife and daughters laughed with me.

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