Klarinet Archive - Posting 000946.txt from 2004/03

From: "Gary Drennan" <psa119@------.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] not just the music department
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:04:22 -0500

Matthew,

I can still respect Tony's talents and find his language offensive.
Admiration for his talent and abilities does not force me to ignore
something that is wrong. I am not a clarinetist first in that everything
must bow to the horn.

Gary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Lloyd" <Matthew@------.f9.co.uk>
To: <klarinet@------.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: [kl] not just the music department

> There are a lot of people on this list who will assume that you are
> serious in this post. It would have helped had you used the well known
> <BG> or a :-) to indicate humour.
>
> Matthew
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Drennan [mailto:psa119@------.net]
> Sent: 17 March 2004 15:52
> To: klarinet@------.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department
>
> I would urge the list manager to remove Tony Pay from the list for the
> use
> of profanity in his posts. I can handle off topic posts, conservatives,
> Republicans, and resonite clarinets, but I am deeply disturbing at
> reading a
> post and having to endure cursing. TV is bad enough with what they
> force
> you to watch during commercials, but this list is no place for foulness.
>
> "Whose mouth is full of cursing and bitterness, their feet are swift to
> shed
> blood, destruction and misery are in their paths, and the path of peace
> they
> have not known. There is no fear of God before their eyes." Romans
> 3:14-18
>
> If Tony's list of adjectives to describe the clarient is so short that
> he
> must curse it, perhaps he should consider playing something else, such
> as
> the radio.
>
> Gary Drennan
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Pay" <tony.p@------.org>
> To: <klarinet@------.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2004 4:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [kl] not just the music department
>
>
> > In message <26559-40576586-6391@--.net>
> > ormondtoby@------.net (Ormondtoby Montoya) wrote:
> >
> > > I was wrong to include my comment about learning handicaps when I
> posted
> > > about schools who have dropped music.
> > >
> > > The 'proper' distribution of resources between disabled and
> non-disabled
> > > is not on-topic here, and I was wrong to bring it up.
> > >
> > > We do not want another "amendment' blow-up on this list.
> >
> > Well, the problem I had was that I didn't understand what you wrote.
> >
> > You said,
> >
> > > Although this doesn't relate to music, test scores of special
> education
> > > students (learning disabled) are penalized for using calculators and
> > > dictionaries during an exam. So one of our school districts is
> considering
> > > taking calculators and dictionaries away from special education
> students
> in
> > > order to improve the _district's_ overall test scores -- even though
> the
> > > special education students will do worse in their tests. Poorer
> > > performance, better scores. Talk about double-speak.
> >
> > Can you explain a bit more clearly? Did you mean:
> >
> > > ...one of our school districts is considering taking calculators and
> > > dictionaries away from ALL students in order to improve the
> _district's_
> > > overall test scores -- even though the special education students
> will
> do
> > > [much] worse in their tests.
> >
> > ?
> >
> > Of course, I know that some people here will DIE of HEART ATTACKS if
> you
> talk
> > about something important -- like understanding an argument -- that
> isn't
> > about the fucking CLARINET.
> >
> > Let them.
> >
> > Tony
> > --
> > _________ Tony Pay
> > |ony:-) 79 Southmoor Rd tony.p@------.org
> > | |ay Oxford OX2 6RE
> http://classicalplus.gmn.com/artists
> > tel/fax 01865 553339
> >
> > ... If he learns from his mistakes, pretty soon he'll know everything!
> >
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