Klarinet Archive - Posting 000411.txt from 2004/03

From: Audrey Travis <vsofan@------.ca>
Subj: Re: [kl] The Necessity of Atheism
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 20:42:23 -0500

Pardon me, Matthew, but your knowledge of this particular traslation is
incorrect (as is that of many people) and that mistake invalidates your
entire premise below. Jesus, being Jewish, understood the difference
between the Hebrew words for "kill" and "murder" and understood that the
original Ten Commandments (in Hebrew) say " Thou shalt not murder" NOT
"Thou shalt not kill". In Hebrew, the words for "Thou shalt not murder is
"lo tirzach" whereas "Though shalt not kill" is "lo teharog". The Ten
Commandments say "lo tirzach". In other words, Jewish Sages note that the
Ten Commandments do not prohibit killing (for example in self defense or in
defense of one's home, country, etc) but they do prohibit illgal murder
meaning manslaughter and premeditatedmurder which has a far different,
hateful and sinister meaning. Jesus knew and understood this since the
Torah (the first five books of the Bible) were read in the Temple three
times a week - he would have been very aware of what Torah said. He, too,
would have preached "Thou shalt not murder". But mistranslations from the
original Hebrew to Greek, then to Latin are numerous and have long been
acknowledged by Bible scholars. Therefore, your premise that religiously
all killing is forbidden has no factual basis.

To all, I apologize for being off topic. Wait a minute, here we go - as
far as I know, the Bible doesn't mention clarinets.

Best - Audrey

Matthew Lloyd wrote:

>
> You sound like a Christian - but what did Jesus say about killing? Thou
> shalt not kill.