Klarinet Archive - Posting 000378.txt from 2004/02
From: "Steve White" <bass.clarinet@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] can't wait part report
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 11:17:11 -0500
Sounds like you had a great time. Don't build the R-13 up too much, while I
play one that I love, I have played some real dogs that bear the same model
distinction. It is likely that a good tech could equalize these variations
in manufacturer quality and I understand that Buffet is doing a better job
of controlling this sort of drift in quality nowadays as well.
I think your opinion is well earned. You seem to have done a good job at
being rather un-biased in your experimentation. I appreciate it as I have
not had the chance to play these particular instruments, and your analysis
is informative. Any input is wonderful for me as I have to recommend
instruments more often these days.
Once you decide what model and manufacture of instrument you want, I would
recommend playing as many of that model as you can before buying. This will
give an idea of how the instruments within the same model run can be very
different. It will also give you a much better idea of what you want out of
the instrument. (IMHO)
I'm trying to put together the time and money to get the clarinet fest this
year, perhaps I'll see you there.
Steve White
Whittier, CA
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Parks [mailto:tim.parks@-----.com]
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2004 6:45 AM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] can't wait part report
I left my notes at home so I am writing this from memory
first-- I had fun.
Second - these are the opinions of someone with absolutely no credentials to
form such opinions.But I am going to buy a clarinet and ultimately it will
be my opinion that signs the check. Hopefully as I try more instruments my
opinion will "mature"
They supplied me with 5 instruments.
1- A special edition Artley
2- CL 201
3- CL 211
4- Odyssey
5- Artys
Odd note-- Selmer provides a C85 MPC with all their instruments. The dealer
is under direction not let anyone try the Odyssey or the Artys with anything
but a upscale, close Mpc. They are not suppose to use the stock Mpc. Good
thing I had my Grabner.
The Artley was a big bore and I did not spend much time with it. I did not
like the sound. It felt funny and responded poorly.
Of the 2xx series I found the 201 to be better than the 211. Which is nice
since it is less expensive.
Some instruments had silver keys and some had nickel. I like the feel of the
silver but it would not be a deal breaker if I like the clarinet. It would
probable serve as a tie breaker between two otherwise equal clarinets.
Both the Odyssey and the Artys were very nice. On the exterior there were
alike and you can not tell them apart. The bore of the Artys is smaller. I
found the Odyssey to be more responsive and tolerate of my less than good
technique. based on nothing more that a hunch..... I think that a closer Mpc
and a harder reed may have benefited the Artys. I did not have one. I played
with a 3.25 FOF and Mpc that I think Walter told me was 1.09 opening.
I played for about 2 hours. mostly going back and forth between the Odyssey
and Artys but also on the 201.
results-- Artley--- pig
CL211-- not bad but not as good as 201
CL201-- nice. better than the Vito that I play now.A good
instrument if I just wanted to replace the Vito.
Artys-- nice. but edged out by the Odyssey
Odyssey-- the winner on this particular day.
interesting note. No matter how expensive the clarinet, I found that I still
had to provide support for the notes. some more than others but
never-the-less support was on me. When I fingered the wrong note -- guess
what??? the wrong note came out.
Also, none and I mean absolutely not a single one could keep time. I
introduced each one to the metronome and each one did absolutely nothing.
just sat there.
(TIC) But then again I was not playing the awesome R-13. now that is
something I really can not wait for.
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