Klarinet Archive - Posting 000105.txt from 2004/02

From: Joe Fasel <jhf@-----.gov>
Subj: Re: [kl] Pitching in
Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 09:39:44 -0500

I did a double-take on your use of the word "Anglo". Around here,
that means a non-Hispanic of European descent whose native language
is English. (English speakers only recently became a majority
in New Mexico.)

Anyway, to me the salesman making a pitch is metaphorically throwing
something at me, as you say. When we pitch a tent, however, we are
setting it up, not throwing it.

Cheers,
--Joe

On 2004.02.09 16:01, Rupert Kahn wrote:
> OK as an anglo I've got to ask USAnians. What do you think is happening
> when a salesman or woman makes a pitch; is he setting out his wares, or is
> she throwing something at you? Could explain why we see the US as the land
> of the hard sell.
>
> Rupert
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thiel, Mark" <mark.thiel@-----.com>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: 09 February 2004 21:43
> Subject: RE: [kl] Possibility of making music in the streets / tube inLondon
>
>
> Noel=A0Taylor wrote:
>
> > In fact the OED has 'pitch' as a British usage
> > "a place where a street vendor or performer
> > stations themselves".
>
> Tim wrote:
> >It's interesting the think of all the meanings for "pitch", including
> the >musical meaning of frequency, as well as a 'sales pitch' and
> 'sticky
> >tar or sap'. The meaning of 'a place to play music' is the one
> meaning
> >not included in my copy of Webster's dictionary.
>
>
> I think it will all become clear if we just consider that cricket
> players bowl a ball -- and do it on a pitch; whereas baseball players
> pitch a ball -- but never on a pitch.
>
> (always eager to improve Anglo/colonial understanding)
> Mark Thiel
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