Klarinet Archive - Posting 000141.txt from 2004/01

From: "Steve Fowler" <steve@-----.com>
Subj: RE: [kl] Cracks, cracks
Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2004 19:20:42 -0500

Thanks! I just love it! It's an Olympus C3030-Zoom. It's now one of their
cheaper models. It's a 3 mega-pixel camera.

Take care!

Steve

Fowler Music Service

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-----Original Message-----
From: Clarinetist [mailto:rkw@-----.net]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 4:24 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: RE: [kl] Cracks, cracks

Steve,
I went to your site and Alexis is adorable. What kind of camera is that.
The picture is superb.

-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Fowler [mailto:steve@-----.com]
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2004 2:50 PM
To: klarinet@-----.org
Subject: Re: [kl] Cracks, cracks

The easiest place to find carbon fiber ribbon is at a marine supply store.
West Products makes epoxies and additives for use in boat building and
repair. I first bought my carbon fiber ribbon from them about 20 years ago
and used it very successfully in the repair of guitars. The west epoxy
products are superior to anything you can buy from any Home Depot or
hardware store. They are expensive, though.
Steve

******** Fowler Music Service ********
- Custom Band Instrument Repair -
***** Plating in Silver and Gold *****
602 Kent Avenue
Pasadena, MD 21122
410.647.9537
www.fowlermusic.com

Keith said:
> The warming that Sue mentions is one factor, but a bigger one is
> moisture. An illustration is that the huge stones for the Egyptian
> pyramids were split by forcing wedges of wood into small cracks then
> soaking the wood with water. OK it was a different wood and the
> clarinet woods are less permeable, but a warm wet clarinet will
> definitely be trying to expand from the inside and exterting quite large
forces.
>
> This has no counterpart in a violin. In the violin, it is important to
> preserve the vibration characteristics of the wooden parts, which as
> Tony and others point out is a second order effect on the clarinet
> (not zero effect, but small). So the aim on the violin is to make the
> repair strong enough to stand the forces of the strings without
> altering the vibration characteristics. Since glues are in general at
> least as strong as the woods used in string instruments, wood/glue
> repairs are ideal in that case.
>
> Clarinets have bigger crack-opening forces and the preservation of the
> bore shape to a fraction of a millimetre is also most important. I
> would support the pinners over the supergluers.
>
> I am very interested in the carbon fiber banding method, which also
> seems appropriate. Anyone know where suitable supplies can be had?
>
> Keith Bowen
> <not a pro repairman, but a materials science professor>
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:39:01 -0800
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> From: "Sue Raycraft" <raycraft@-----.com>
> Subject: Re: [kl] Cracks, cracks
> Message-ID: <000401c3d242$0185b440$70301c40@x>
>
>>Frank,
>>I think a clarinet is different than a violin, because it is being
>>warmed
> the inside and is trying to expand...it's a pretty strong force and it
> can force the crack to open up again if it is just glued. I am doing a
> lousy job of explaining this but I am sure someone else will say the
> same thing in a better way!
> Sue<who is NOT an expert by any means>
>
>>> Due to my cracking incident, I decided to read some old posts on the
> topic. Most said pinning is the way to go. Then I thought of this...
> if a violin repairman/maker uses GLUE to fix a cracked surface of a
> good instrument that costs anywhere between $18,000 and $2,000,000,
> why not use glue on a $1,800 clarinet?
>
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