Klarinet Archive - Posting 000021.txt from 2004/01

From: "Karl Krelove" <karlkrelove@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] 5rv tone color
Date: Thu, 1 Jan 2004 14:26:49 -0500

Dan, I continue to be confused about why you recognize physical differences
among clarinets of different sizes as capable of producing different timbres
but deny that physical differences among different manufacturers' products
are capable of producing the same kinds of timbral variety. I am right there
with you on almost everything you've said about this over the past few weeks
(and years...), but I just can't make that last jump with you when you
insist that, dominance of internal differences in the player's physique and
his/her technical approach and concept of sound notwithstanding,
-a Vandoren mouthpiece *can't* produce some (possibly) small but measurably
different (and audible) tone color from a Pyne or a Marcellus/Woodwind Co.
mouthpiece or that
-a B-flat clarinet made by Yamaha cannot because of its deliberately
different design produce a measurably different (and audible) tone color
from one made by Buffet or Leblanc or (fill in the name...).

It just seems as if you've taken a position that up to a point is absolutely
defensible and have decided to try to stretch it to the point of
distortion - or do I still misunderstand what you've said?

Happy New Year to all!

Karl

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dan Leeson [mailto:leeson0@-----.net]
>
> You misunderstand the subject that is the heart of this discussion. A
> clarinet sounds like a clarinet and not a trumpet or a taragato or a
> soprano saxophone or a tuba because of a variety of factors, none of
> which have very much if anything to do with what we are talking about. A
> clarinet in C has a distinct sound that is measureably different from
> that of a clarinet in B-flat, and yet both are clarinets. No one would
> suggest that one sounds like a clarinet, while the other does not. This
> phenomenon has little to do with the issue that I was addressing. You
> have put the natural characteristic of the sound of a particular musical
> instrument into the pot along with the issues of individual sound
> personality produced by a specific player, and then stirred the soup.
>
> What we ARE talking about is the character of the sound that YOU produce
> on a clarinet, and which, all things being equal, will sound the same
> from clarinet to clarinet. And the factors that influence your
> characteristic sound are due almost exclusively to a number of
> uncontrollable aspects of your body, as well as several that you able to
> control.
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Dan Leeson
> leeson0@-----.net
>

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