Klarinet Archive - Posting 000366.txt from 2003/10

From: Tony@-----.uk (Tony Pay)
Subj: Re: [kl] Who speaks?
Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2003 15:05:01 -0400

Ormondtoby Montoya wrote:

> Tony Pay wrote:
>
> > It's impossible to avoid that different people find different
> > answers to 'what the music demands' for a given piece.
> > Nevertheless [snip about 'bad' music] 'putting your own feelings
> > into it' is a superficial and misleading description of the process
> > of performing it.
>
> This is precisely my point. If different people find different
> answers, then each of them *is* putting something of him/herself into
> the music.

No. Again you fail to understand.

What is wrong about everything you write is the metaphor you insist
on using. Performers don't 'put' anything of themselves 'into' the
music.

> I don't see anything bad about this. A performance wherein the
> performer doesn't intentionally put something of him/herself into the
> music is an oxymoron, as far I can see. Music **is** an interaction
> between composer, player, and audience (if any).

You obviously didn't read the reference I gave you, where this
misunderstanding is discussed:

http://www.woodwind.org/Databases/Logs/2002/09/000553.txt

> I propose that what we are really discussing is: How far should the
> player go? and who decides this question? I've already given the
> example of playing 'Ride of the Valkyrie' as a cha-cha. This is
> obviously going too far because note values and meter have been
> altered, notes probably inserted, and the resultant alteration of
> 'mood' would be gross indeed.... except.... even in this case, the
> result might be 'good music' that would get people's toes tapping
> without dishonoring the composer.

Same reference.

By the way, I find it intriguing that you, not a performer, have such a
-- how shall I put it -- 'high profile' attitude to what performance
'must consist of'.

I wouldn't have the chutzpah to summon it up in a field in which I
hadn't spent my life, and in which others had.

Tony
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