Klarinet Archive - Posting 000321.txt from 2003/09

From: "Forest Aten" <forestaten@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] Clarinetist/Musician
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 10:05:43 -0400

P.S. Ken

Because a performing musician makes a transition to conducting.....it does
not guarantee success or qualify them as a fine musician. Some make the
transition, some don't. Unfortunately, I have sat under the baton of many
successful performers turned conductor....that were huge failures in their
new conducting career. Some of these 'musicians' now turned conductor,
seemed to do everything they could do destroy what music there was to be
had. (and piss off the orchestra along the way.... ;-)
On the other hand, Anshel Brusilov, concertmaster of the Philadelphia
Orchestra for decades (a world class musician).....is one of the finest
conductors I've ever had the privilege to work with. He has been able to
continue making music in a completely different way at the same level as he
was able to achieve on his primary instrument, the violin.

Some can make the change, some can't. Some want to make the change, some
don't.

Pavarotti (and other fine performing musicians) has no interest in
conducting. This should not be a factor in whether or not he (they) can be
classified as a fine musician.

Forest Aten

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Wolman" <kwolman@-----.com>
Subject: Re: [kl] Clarinetist/Musician

> Ormondtoby Montoya wrote:
>
> > ....is a conductor who can neither play nor compose a "good" musician?
> >
> > <sorry!>
>
> The world of classical singing, especially opera, has been replete with
> people with wonderful voices who nevertheless could not read a note of
> music. Enrico Caruso was one. More recently Franco Corelli and Luciano
> Pavarotti were and are part of this contingent. They had to be taught
> their roles by a coach and learn them by ear. They played no instrument
> (piano is usually the obvious choice). I don't know about Caruso, but
> Pavarotti and Corelli both commit unmusical errors: missing entrances,
> screwing up dynamic markings, stepping on another singer's lines because
> the only music they've committed to memory is their own, and that by
> rote. Great voices or not, these are not musicians--they're simply great
> instruments. By comparison, Placido Domingo is transitioning as his voice
> fades into a conductor because he studied conducting and piano at the
> conservatory in Mexico City years ago.
>
> Ken
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