Klarinet Archive - Posting 000883.txt from 2003/08

From: Oliver Seely <oseely@-----.edu>
Subj: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_[kl]_Esquisses_H=E9bra=EFques?=
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 16:17:24 -0400

Hi Michael,

I'll stick with the Opus 12 and 13 and the Marc Lavry Sextet for right now,=
=20
but I'll print out your message and file it with my collection of "more=20
things to do." I'd be interested to know what else you find, however. =
Thanks,

Oliver

At 09:03 PM 8/29/03 +0100, you wrote:
>Correction, etc.
>I misread the manuscript twice:
>1) The composer's name is Marc Lavry
>(Riga 1903-Haifa 1967, Slonimsky/Baker)
>2) The unreadable word in the fourth
>movement of the Hebrew Dances, is "Yemenite".
>"Jewish Yemenite Wedding Dance"
>
> From another box I have unearthed:
>All for cl 2vn va vc pf, parts and score.
>a) Jacob Weinberg (1879-1956):
>"Yemenite Rhapsody" Op 18, from the opera Hechabug 1925-6
>b) "In Memoriam Sergei Taneyev" ST died in 1915
>c) Arkady Dubensky (1890-1966): Sextet
>d) Joseph Achron (1886-1943)
>"Sher"** 1930
>e) Julius Chajes (Lwow, Poland=3DLviv, Ukraine 1910-?)
>- Pianist with Bellison on US LP Classic Edition CE 1001
>"Little Palestinian Suite"
>
>** One of the most common dance forms in the Jewish
>repertoire, similar to a square dance or a Russian quadrille.
> From http://www.schapiro-wine.com/yiddish.html
>
>MB
>I wrote on August 29, 2003 8:45 AM
>Subject: Re: [kl] Esquisses H=E9bra=EFques
>
> > Krein: Many thanks for this kind offer.
> > I will post to you copies of the scores
> > (which I have located) of
> > Op 12 (3 movements, duration 5+3+3 mins) and
> > 13 (2 movements, duration 5+4 mins)
> > in a few day's time. [Street address?]
> >
> > In the process of looking for them I also came across:
> > Marc Laury: Hebrew Dances Op 190a
> > for clarinet, string quartet and piano, in manuscript.
> > 1) Jewish Dance, 6 pages (2 systems per page)
> > 2) Jewish Oriental Dance, 4 pages (clarinet and piano)
> > 3) 'Sher' Jewish Wedding Dance, 6 pages
> > 4) Jewish Wedding (an undecyphered word) Dance, 6 pages
> > 5) Hora, 6 pages
> >
> > MB
> >
> > Oliver Seely on Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:10 PM
> > Subject: Re: [kl] Esquisses H=E9bra=EFques
> >
> >
> > Perhaps not masterpieces but these ought not to be allowed to go
> > underground as Dan has suggested. Against my better judgment, I=
volunteer
> > to create a Finale edition of one quintet, if it has 3-4 movements, or
> > three if they are single movements, if I am allowed to put them up on my
> > page.
> >
> > Good going, Michael, for your research on the matter.
> >
> > Oliver
> >
> > At 10:40 PM 8/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
> > >After some correspondence with Claude Abravanel,
> > >I have copies of some manuscripts in the Bellison
> > >Collection. I will explore the relevant boxes next week.
> > >They are not necessarily the same as Kloecker's selection.
> > >The catalogue was published in 1993 and contains 112
> > >original compositions. I have a suspicion that there are not
> > >many masterpieces ...
> > >
> > >I also have copies of the printed scores of Krein's
> > >Jewish Sketches Op 12 and 13, from Manchester
> > >Public Library.
> > >
> > >There are at least two other CDs of Alexander Krein's
> > >music, which, between them, do not duplicate anything:
> > >ASV CDA 1154 containing Op 12 (Elizabeth Drew - cl)
> > >Largo 5136 containing Op 13 (Neyire Ashworth - cl)
> > >
> > >MB
> > >
> > >Dan Leeson wrote on Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:08 PM
> > >Subject: [kl] Esquisses H=E9bra=EFques
> > >
> > >
> > > > Several weeks ago I reported on a two disk set of quintets for
>clarinet
> > > > and string quartet all based on Jewish themes and recorded by Dieter
> > > > Kl=F6cker and the Vlach Quartet of Prague under the title "Esquisses
> > > > H=E9bra=EFques." This was very much new news to me, but was clearly=
old
> > > > information for some knowledgeable people on this list. I was even
> > > > pointed to a website from which I purchased the disks, they arrived
>and
> > > > I have had a very pleasant week listening to them.
> > > >
> > > > Some of them are pleasant but not much more (in my opinion), and a=
few
> > > > are really exceptional. Kl=F6cker played very well but that style is=
one
> > > > that takes years to master, to say nothing of the fact that it also
> > > > involves a cultural displacement. It can be learned of course, but
>only
> > > > after time and immersion in the culture. By that I am not speaking=
of
> > > > klezmer because this music is not that at all, but perhaps cantorial
> > > > music. Nonetheless, he is owed an enormous debt of gratitude for
>having
> > > > taken the effort of getting the often penciled manuscript parts from
> > > > Bellison estate as given to a facility in Israel by his wife in the
> > > > 1950s, I believe.
> > > >
> > > > Without access to a score and a set of performance parts, these
> > > > charming, occasionally very beautiful, works are going to go
> > > > underground. So before I start any hard work to prepare such
>material,
> > > > does anyone know better information than mine; i.e., except for
> > > > Kl=F6cker's material -- and which he has never been prepared to make
> > > > available to others -- the only source for these works is the Rubin
> > > > Academy of Music and Dance in Israel, and that is solely a set of
> > > > manuscript performance parts, not a printed score or even a score=
for
> > > > that matter? If copies are obtainable I might undertake the task of
> > > > preparing the quintets using Finale. But it has always been my
>"ungluck"
> > > > (or bad luck) to spend months preparing something only to find out
>that
> > > > 17 other people had already done the work.
> > > >
> > > > So does anyone know anything about this (as contrasted with=
assertions
> > > > about the absolute knowledge that most clarinet players use Buffets=
to
> > > > the exclusion of anything else and are prepared at the drop of a=
bocal
> > > > to avoid the presentation of any evidence in support of that very
> > > > questionable assertion)? [The question mark applies to the question,
>not
> > > > to my unrequested, snide, and snotty parenthetical statement.]
> > > >
> > > > DNL
> >
> >
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