Klarinet Archive - Posting 000848.txt from 2003/08

From: "Michael Bryant" <michael@-----.uk>
Subj: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Re:_=5Bkl=5D_Esquisses_H=E9bra=EFques?=
Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2003 03:45:12 -0400

Krein: Many thanks for this kind offer.
I will post to you copies of the scores
(which I have located) of
Op 12 (3 movements, duration 5+3+3 mins) and
13 (2 movements, duration 5+4 mins)
in a few day's time. [Street address?]

In the process of looking for them I also came across:
Marc Laury: Hebrew Dances Op 190a
for clarinet, string quartet and piano, in manuscript.
1) Jewish Dance, 6 pages (2 systems per page)
2) Jewish Oriental Dance, 4 pages (clarinet and piano)
3) 'Sher' Jewish Wedding Dance, 6 pages
4) Jewish Wedding (an undecyphered word) Dance, 6 pages
5) Hora, 6 pages

MB

Oliver Seely on Thursday, August 28, 2003 11:10 PM
Subject: Re: [kl] Esquisses Hébraïques

Perhaps not masterpieces but these ought not to be allowed to go
underground as Dan has suggested. Against my better judgment, I volunteer
to create a Finale edition of one quintet, if it has 3-4 movements, or
three if they are single movements, if I am allowed to put them up on my
page.

Good going, Michael, for your research on the matter.

Oliver

At 10:40 PM 8/28/03 +0100, you wrote:
>After some correspondence with Claude Abravanel,
>I have copies of some manuscripts in the Bellison
>Collection. I will explore the relevant boxes next week.
>They are not necessarily the same as Kloecker's selection.
>The catalogue was published in 1993 and contains 112
>original compositions. I have a suspicion that there are not
>many masterpieces ...
>
>I also have copies of the printed scores of Krein's
>Jewish Sketches Op 12 and 13, from Manchester
>Public Library.
>
>There are at least two other CDs of Alexander Krein's
>music, which, between them, do not duplicate anything:
>ASV CDA 1154 containing Op 12 (Elizabeth Drew - cl)
>Largo 5136 containing Op 13 (Neyire Ashworth - cl)
>
>MB
>
>Dan Leeson wrote on Thursday, August 28, 2003 5:08 PM
>Subject: [kl] Esquisses Hébraïques
>
>
> > Several weeks ago I reported on a two disk set of quintets for clarinet
> > and string quartet all based on Jewish themes and recorded by Dieter
> > Klöcker and the Vlach Quartet of Prague under the title "Esquisses
> > Hébraïques." This was very much new news to me, but was clearly old
> > information for some knowledgeable people on this list. I was even
> > pointed to a website from which I purchased the disks, they arrived and
> > I have had a very pleasant week listening to them.
> >
> > Some of them are pleasant but not much more (in my opinion), and a few
> > are really exceptional. Klöcker played very well but that style is one
> > that takes years to master, to say nothing of the fact that it also
> > involves a cultural displacement. It can be learned of course, but only
> > after time and immersion in the culture. By that I am not speaking of
> > klezmer because this music is not that at all, but perhaps cantorial
> > music. Nonetheless, he is owed an enormous debt of gratitude for having
> > taken the effort of getting the often penciled manuscript parts from
> > Bellison estate as given to a facility in Israel by his wife in the
> > 1950s, I believe.
> >
> > Without access to a score and a set of performance parts, these
> > charming, occasionally very beautiful, works are going to go
> > underground. So before I start any hard work to prepare such material,
> > does anyone know better information than mine; i.e., except for
> > Klöcker's material -- and which he has never been prepared to make
> > available to others -- the only source for these works is the Rubin
> > Academy of Music and Dance in Israel, and that is solely a set of
> > manuscript performance parts, not a printed score or even a score for
> > that matter? If copies are obtainable I might undertake the task of
> > preparing the quintets using Finale. But it has always been my "ungluck"
> > (or bad luck) to spend months preparing something only to find out that
> > 17 other people had already done the work.
> >
> > So does anyone know anything about this (as contrasted with assertions
> > about the absolute knowledge that most clarinet players use Buffets to
> > the exclusion of anything else and are prepared at the drop of a bocal
> > to avoid the presentation of any evidence in support of that very
> > questionable assertion)? [The question mark applies to the question, not
> > to my unrequested, snide, and snotty parenthetical statement.]
> >
> > DNL

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