Klarinet Archive - Posting 000771.txt from 2003/08

From: "Forest Aten" <forestaten@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] 'Measuring' music (was: Rossi and Patricola vs Buffet)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:18:01 -0400

"For example, if I ask 100 people to each play ten different clarinets
and then I ask them, "Which clarinet has the least fuzzy, least buzzy
sound?", can I tabulate their answers and declare that I have achieved
an "objective" standard for fuzzy & buzzy?"

Yes....I think that a "test" could be set up that would work. It would be
easy to ask players to determine whether a note (evaluation is on each note)
is clear or fuzzy/buzzy. I feel confident that a test of this nature would
end with accuracy reflecting an objective outcome; a collective outcome, one
independent of individual perceptions. A usable result.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ormondtoby Montoya" <ormondtoby@-----.net>
Subject: Re: [kl] 'Measuring' music (was: Rossi and Patricola vs Buffet)

> Forest Aten wrote:
>
> > How about just a few minimum objective
> > criteria: use different players, different
> > locations, different days, different reeds..you
> > name it....it can all be tracked and measured.
> > It just takes time and effort.
>
> > [snip]
>
> > Clarity of sound: panel evaluates each note
> > on the clarinet....the "no fuzz, no buzz" test
>
>
>
> Forest, this could become a "tempest in a tea pot" sort of debate ---
> which would bore everyone else on the list --- and presumably neither of
> us wants to do so.
>
> So instead of debating, may I just ask you: What is the difference
> between "objective" and "subjective" as you are using the words?
>
> For example, if I ask 100 people to each play ten different clarinets
> and then I ask them, "Which clarinet has the least fuzzy, least buzzy
> sound?", can I tabulate their answers and declare that I have achieved
> an "objective" standard for fuzzy & buzzy?
>

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