Klarinet Archive - Posting 000742.txt from 2003/08

From: "Matthew Lloyd" <Matthew@-----.uk>
Subj: RE: [kl] The standard for professional clarinettists
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 15:21:56 -0400

Dan,

I could go further - in England Leblanc is not a common instrument
either!

But as far as the general point that you (and others) make sales figures
are irrelevant. Otherwise a Volkswagen Beetle would be a better car than
a BMW M3. And I guess no one is going to seriously suggest that the
Toyota is the better car?

Matthew

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Leeson [mailto:leeson0@-----.net]
Subject: Re: [kl] The standard for professional clarinetists

Forest, I do not mean to minimize your own perspective of the situation,

but your personal experience does not constitute evidence. In both
Germany, Switzerland, and Austria, you will find almost no Buffet
clarinets. Nor will you find very many in all of Russia, or the entire
eastern block. In Russia, the Boehm instrument is currently the most
popular and every time I see a Russian orchestra and ask about the
instruments, I'm told that they, in the main, are Selmers.

But my analysis is no better than yours. Using a gut feel to make a
universal statement is just bad logic.

I have (or had) a number of excellent Buffet instruments. I liked them,

but did not base my opinion of them on what other thought. And a
statement such as yours and that of David Blumberg says to every
impressionable kid, "You must have a Buffet to be really with the in
crowd." And that is nothing more than doo-doo!!

Dan Leeson

Forest Aten wrote:

> Dan,
>
> All of the studio and jazz players I know use Buffets. All of my old
school
> buddies from North Texas, doing show work....use Buffets. I know it's
not
> more than a local sample...but it's easy to check around and find out
what
> the active professional players are using.
>
> Forest Aten
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:35 AM
> Subject: [kl] The standard for professional clarinetists
>
>
>
>>David Blumberg wrote:
>>
>>"Buffet is still the standard for Professional Clarinetists and
>>probably always will be. Sure there are others but put em all together
>>and they still don't equal Buffet's Industry Marketplace. The best
that
>>the competitors can do is to demonize the Buffet to try to get their
own
>>model sold."
>>
>>Dave, your preference for clarinets is your own business and no one
can
>>criticize you for your choice. But when you suggest something about
>>what the industry marketplace has and does, you have to be able to
>>defend that statement other than by a smell test.
>>
>>What evidence do you have that jusifies such a bold statement? Isn't
it
>>enough for you to say that you have Buffets and like them? What high
>>ground is taken when you make statements about an industry marketplace
>>without providing statistics that confirm you assertion?
>>
>>If you consider the world of professional jazz players, or non
>>Americans, I believe your assertion cannot be sustained.
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