Klarinet Archive - Posting 000726.txt from 2003/08

From: "Forest Aten" <forestaten@-----.net>
Subj: Re: [kl] The standard for professional clarinetists
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 13:11:03 -0400

Dan,

"Germany, Switzerland, and Austria, you will find almost no Buffet
clarinets"

P.S. see other post on "national schools" of clarinet thought.....and your
link is??

Perhaps the players from these countries are using different criteria to
select their clarinets. Perhaps linguistics or a different ear??.....Or
maybe these players have all been brainwashed (like "all" users of Buffet
clarinets) into believing that the system they use is best.

I'm not saying that Buffet is the only choice. I never have. But...for most
professional players, let's say in...North America, Buffet has become the
top choice for a lot of reasons.

The Buffet clarinet may not work well at all in Germany, Switzerland and
Austria....the air may be too rarefied for the poor common R-13 to work
properly. :-)

Forest

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
Subject: Re: [kl] The standard for professional clarinetists

> Forest, I do not mean to minimize your own perspective of the situation,
> but your personal experience does not constitute evidence. In both
> Germany, Switzerland, and Austria. Nor will you find very many in all of
Russia, or the entire
> eastern block. In Russia, the Boehm instrument is currently the most
> popular and every time I see a Russian orchestra and ask about the
> instruments, I'm told that they, in the main, are Selmers.
>
> But my analysis is no better than yours. Using a gut feel to make a
> universal statement is just bad logic.
>
> I have (or had) a number of excellent Buffet instruments. I liked them,
> but did not base my opinion of them on what other thought. And a
> statement such as yours and that of David Blumberg says to every
> impressionable kid, "You must have a Buffet to be really with the in
> crowd." And that is nothing more than doo-doo!!
>
> Dan Leeson
>
>
> Forest Aten wrote:
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > All of the studio and jazz players I know use Buffets. All of my old
school
> > buddies from North Texas, doing show work....use Buffets. I know it's
not
> > more than a local sample...but it's easy to check around and find out
what
> > the active professional players are using.
> >
> > Forest Aten
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Dan Leeson" <leeson0@-----.net>
> > To: <klarinet@-----.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 9:35 AM
> > Subject: [kl] The standard for professional clarinetists
> >
> >
> >
> >>David Blumberg wrote:
> >>
> >>"Buffet is still the standard for Professional Clarinetists and
> >>probably always will be. Sure there are others but put em all together
> >>and they still don't equal Buffet's Industry Marketplace. The best that
> >>the competitors can do is to demonize the Buffet to try to get their own
> >>model sold."
> >>
> >>Dave, your preference for clarinets is your own business and no one can
> >>criticize you for your choice. But when you suggest something about
> >>what the industry marketplace has and does, you have to be able to
> >>defend that statement other than by a smell test.
> >>
> >>What evidence do you have that jusifies such a bold statement? Isn't it
> >>enough for you to say that you have Buffets and like them? What high
> >>ground is taken when you make statements about an industry marketplace
> >>without providing statistics that confirm you assertion?
> >>
> >>If you consider the world of professional jazz players, or non
> >>Americans, I believe your assertion cannot be sustained.
> --
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