Klarinet Archive - Posting 000233.txt from 2003/08

From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Tony=20Pay?= <tony_pay@-----.uk>
Subj: Re: [kl] Mouthpiece patches, stiff upper lip
Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 21:09:59 -0400

--- Russell Harlow <lharlow@-----.net> wrote:

> Most players I know, except for Richard Stolzman and John Yeh sit to play.

Probably they're playing in orchestras when they do. Most players stand in
recitals.

> David Weber told me he sits and occasionally rests the bell on his knee but
> when he played a solo the horn would always comes up. I can't rest the horn
> when I play because I find it inhibits freedom. When I studied with Gary
> Foster in LA in the 60's he played Dbl lip and told me if I was to play that
> way I should never rest the bell on the knee as it changed the embouchure.
> The secret I believe is what Harold Wright (who also sat when he played!)
> said to me ---you must have a stable mouthpiece with a balanced reed so that
> the sound is "there" without having to do very much. He told me never to
> play on a reed that doesn't sound good. Many, many times I've wanted to tell
> a conductor "I can't play today. The reed doesn't sound good"! McLane did
> sit. I have a video of him sitting for a concerto. But he said that he
> praticed standing up.

I have no idea where this gets us. It's all either trivial, or meaningless.
Of course we'd all like a good reed to play on. And, so these people did all
of that. Why does that mean we should? Why would resting the bell on the knee
change the embouchure?

> If you play with your teeth on the mouthpiece, no matter how lightly, you
> will get scratches.

I never did, before I used rubber patches.

> But I have seen mouthpieces that have very large grooves in them, as I'm sure
> you have (I almost bit through one myself when I was a student) and thats the
> problem.

Why is it a problem, never mind, *the* problem? Richard Muhlfeld had silver
plates inlaid in his mouthpieces to protect them.

"Who?" I hear you ask. (Well, he wasn't a legendary American, of course.)

> And of course a callus is formed on the upper lip-that is unavoidable

Why? I don't have a callus on my lower lip. Am I doing something 'wrong'?

> --and when you get tired from playing too long
> or an unresponsive reed or marching band (I don't recommend marching with
> two lips) it can get sore, but then that happens with single lip. The point
> is, you can play double lip without resting the bell for as long as you need
> if the lips are developed and you want to. (John Mohler told me the first
> time he saw McLane play he said McLanes' embouchure looked like a brick wall
> and he thought "I don't think I can bite that hard". Of course McLane wasn't
> biting, that was his impression of how the muscles looked.

Wow. The Arnie Schwarzanegger of the clarinet.

> Perhaps the main point of Dbl lip is that you are forced to develop all the
> muscles and then the fingers lighten up and other elements fall into place
> as they should.

All what muscles? Why would that make the fingers lighten up?

> If you can do it with single lip thats great. I find when I
> have gone back to single lip my playing can become a bit uneven. So I stay
> with it. Double lip is not for everyone but if a student can correct a
> problem with it or finds thats the direction they want to go they should be
> encouraged. Don't you think?

Perhaps. (I know you weren't asking me.)

> By the way, everyone that studied with McLane at Curtis had to change to Dbl
> lip. I guess he was serious.

I guess he was a stupidly arrogant prick, if he forced people who weren't
suited to it to do that. He'd certainly have ruined me.

Tony

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