Klarinet Archive - Posting 000107.txt from 2003/08

From: "Karl Krelove" <karlkrelove@-----.net>
Subj: RE: [kl] Mouthpiece patches, stiff upper lip
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 12:01:43 -0400

I find the same is true for my teeth, even without crowns on them. I've
always had uncomfortable, sometimes painful vibrations transmit through my
teeth into the jaw structure above them. I, too, switch back-and-forth
between double and single lip. If I must test-play a student's setup without
a patch, I always use both lips. I find even when playing single lip that
pulling the upper lip back and replicating as closely as possible the feel
of a double lip embouchure gets the overall result I am happiest with.

Karl Krelove

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roger Shilcock
> [mailto:roger.shilcock@-----.uk]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 10:33 AM
> To: klarinet@-----.org
> Subject: Re: [kl] Mouthpiece patches, stiff upper lip
>
>
> Yes - I found the teeth transmitted vibrations.
> Roger
>
>
>
> In message <Law9-F80Gcalaz59lBl000334d1@-----.com>
> klarinet@-----.org writes:
> >
> > Roger,
> >
> > Why did you switch to double lip when you had your teeth
> crowned? Did you
> > find it uncomfortable with the crowns?
> > My front teeth are due and I am worried that it will effect my
> embouchure.
> >
> > (BTW, I play B45, B40 and B46 with a Vandoren V12 3.5 reeds).
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> > Vic Brincat
> > vicbrincat@-----.com, AOL Instant Messenger ID: vicbrincat58, Yahoo!
> > Messenger ID: vicbrincat
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Roger Shilcock
> <roger.shilcock@-----.uk>
> > >Reply-To: klarinet@-----.org
> > >To: klarinet@-----.org
> > >Subject: Re: [kl] Mouthpiece patches, stiff upper lip
> > >Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2003 09:06:59 +0100 (BST)
> > >
> > >I had to change to double-lip when I had my front upper teeth crowned.
> > >I found it more tiring. You also tend to grip harder with the mouth
> > >overall, so
> > >if you're used to soft reeds, there is a problem - and the thumb rest
> > >position becomes crucial.
> > >Roger S.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >In message <5.2.1.1.0.20030805121221.00b914d8@-----.net>
> > >klarinet@-----.org writes:
> > > > At 11:45 AM 8/5/2003 -0400, Tom wrote:
> > > > >If everyone would wrap the lip under the top teeth.(the way god
> > >intended, imho) You could get the moutpiece patch monkey off
> your back. How
> > >many more rubber gloves need to die a needless death?
> > > > >Tom Puwalski, a man who uses both lips
> > > >
> > > > -------------------------
> > > >
> > > > I had my first official clarinet lesson a couple of weeks
> ago from a man
> > >who is a HS band director and clarinet player and teacher. He
> stressed that
> > >I should specifically use my teeth on top, as it is better for
> control,
> > >especially in the upper registers. However, I had been coached
> for the past
> > >few months by a friend, and she was emphatic about using the
> upper lip over
> > >the teeth on top. So here I am, trying to unlearn the upper lip thing.
> > >Other than personal preference, is there any evidence that one
> method is
> > >better than the other?
> > > >
> > > > Erik Tkal (used to a Shilke 51 trombone mouthpiece
> anyway, no teeth
> > >involved)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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